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Elizabeth McKey b 1804 Guernsey lived in Durham
« on: Wednesday 22 April 09 13:58 BST (UK) »
Hello all you genealogy masters,

I have a puzzle here.  My great-great-great-grandmother Elizabeth McKey was apparently born in Guernsey 13 Dec 1804 (date from family bible, birthplace from every census she was in).  She married Robert Fryar on 20 Mar 1826 in St. Peter's church Wallsend and then spent most of her adult life in Durham (Washington, Usworth, Seghill, Gateshead etc).
Problem number one is finding her marriage info.  I think I got this from a distant relation but I have no confirmation. 
Number two is finding any info on parents, siblings etc.  I have actually contacted a woman doing genealogy research in Guernsey and she sent me some births from the Town Church Register with the name McKey/McKay, Mackie, Mackey but none were Elizabeth.  She said that she could have been baptized privately as there was no requirement to register births there in the early 1800s.
She also said that it wasn't a local Guernsey name (obviously Scottish in origin) which I figured.  I was working on a possible military/naval/merchant seaman kind of assumption for her father's career.  This is probably why she ended up in Northern England if her family were originally from Scotland or Northern England.
Anyway, you people are much more experienced than I with these head scratchers, so I would love some advice or help on this one.
Thanks in advance for any help

Patti
Ellison, Cocks, Shaw, Lucken, Peake, Thomson, Broadbent, Wilcox, Halliday, Turner, Latham, Caisley, Fryar, Mortimore, Marshall, Brice, Borland

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Re: Elizabeth McKey b 1804 Guernsey lived in Durham
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 15:19 BST (UK) »
My understanding is that in 1804, because of the Poor Laws, baptism in a parish gave legal right to residency at a later date.  If her parents were in the army, navy etc, and they were 'passing through' they may have decided not to have the child baptised there because of its location. 

If at a later stage she was served with a removal order from somewhere on the mainland, her only legal place of abode might be Guernsey which would not have been convenient.

It may be that they waited until they were back in their own town.

Ashley
DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Appleby
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
SX: Bartlett, Cager
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Re: Elizabeth McKey b 1804 Guernsey lived in Durham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 19:13 BST (UK) »
She married Robert Fryar on 20 Mar 1826 in St. Peter's church Wallsend and then spent most of her adult life in Durham (Washington, Usworth, Seghill, Gateshead etc).
Problem number one is finding her marriage info.  I think I got this from a distant relation but I have no confirmation. 

You will find confirmation of the marriage on this transcription from Genuki http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/Transcriptions/NBL/MWAL.html
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Re: Elizabeth McKey b 1804 Guernsey lived in Durham
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 April 09 00:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jen and Ashley

Jen, you are epic as my 14 year old would say.  I think you can do genealogy in your sleep.  Now that I have confirmed her marriage and her name (spelled McKay in this case),  I wish I knew something else about her other than that she blew in to Northumberland somewhere between 1804 and 1826.  After 1826, I have lots of info on her.  She is very interesting to me-a puzzle.
Let me know if you can think of ways to find her parents.  If she was baptized later, the birth date doesn't help much.  Hmmmm......
Thanks again to you both for your input

Patti
Ellison, Cocks, Shaw, Lucken, Peake, Thomson, Broadbent, Wilcox, Halliday, Turner, Latham, Caisley, Fryar, Mortimore, Marshall, Brice, Borland


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Re: Elizabeth McKey b 1804 Guernsey lived in Durham
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 April 09 21:38 BST (UK) »
Hi again Jen et al

Now that I have confirmation of Elizabeth McKey/McKay's marriage, any idea where I might find the original just in case there is a father's name on the register?  Do you know where the record it was transcribed from would be found?  Would it be in the new Bishop's transcripts?

Thanks for any more help that any of you can give.  You guys are great.

Patti
Ellison, Cocks, Shaw, Lucken, Peake, Thomson, Broadbent, Wilcox, Halliday, Turner, Latham, Caisley, Fryar, Mortimore, Marshall, Brice, Borland

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Re: Elizabeth McKey b 1804 Guernsey lived in Durham
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 April 09 09:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Patti

In 1826 there was no requirement for the father's name to be registered - that came in 1 Jul 1837.  It is always worth while taking note of the witness names if you can as there are often clues there, so if you can get a view of the original by some means then that may help.

Ashley
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NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
SX: Bartlett, Cager
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Re: Elizabeth McKey b 1804 Guernsey lived in Durham
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 April 09 14:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Ashley

Any idea where the original parish records for St. Peter's Wallsend 1826 would be found?  I looked at the Bishop's transcripts pilot on familysearch, but Wallsend doesn't go that far back (yet).  I may just have to wait as I am in Canada.

Thanks again for your help,

Patti
Ellison, Cocks, Shaw, Lucken, Peake, Thomson, Broadbent, Wilcox, Halliday, Turner, Latham, Caisley, Fryar, Mortimore, Marshall, Brice, Borland

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Re: Elizabeth McKey b 1804 Guernsey lived in Durham
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 26 April 09 14:36 BST (UK) »
Here's a link to Genuki, which shows where the records are held:

http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Wallsend/ChurchRecords.html

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Re: Elizabeth McKey b 1804 Guernsey lived in Durham
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 April 09 22:06 BST (UK) »
You could always post a request in the look-ups section of this website - some kind person may have them on fiche or film and be able to help

Good Luck!

Ashley
DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Appleby
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
SX: Bartlett, Cager
BK: Saunders
NY: Miller (Swaledale), Raw
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