Palmers of Leicestershire

[lisasteve34]

My  great great Great Grandfather Joseph Palmer was a Gentleman and it has been pased down the family that they owned a business in Leicstershire. it was something to do with leather and either millinary or hoisery. I am not sure, however i have found a Palmer Brother Ltd there which was a hoisery factory. Also many of the children worked in hoisery so may indicate towards this. I would love to here more from any one who knows the history of leicestershire and may know of the Palmer family and business.

Many thanks
Lisa

[Annie65115]

Have you found Joseph in the censuses? What is given as his profession there?

[niglor]

Just wondered if you have a Sydney Thomas Palmer born 14th July 1905 in your tree at all.

He married my gt aunt Annie (aka Molly) Harding.

Niglor

[lisasteve34]

I havn't found him on the census, I don't have an ancestry account. I do have information on the generation below.

Joseph Palmer (occupation on sons marriage certificate states, Gentleman) born 1811 in Leicestershire he married Caroline (possibly Leader) Abt 1806, Leicestershire.
They had Elizabeth (1827) Sarah (1829) John (1835) Caroline (1838) MAria (1840) and Joseph (1846). 

My line follows through John Palmer the Census shows:

881

John Palmer...head...age 46...currier/courier??...brn Leicester

Elizabeth...wife...age 42..brn London

Henry W...son...age 20...currier/courier??..brn Northampton

Elizabeth..daur...age 19...hoisery...brn Leicester

Beatrice...daur..age 17...hoisery..brn Northampton

Emily..daur...age 15...hoisery..brn Northampton

John J...son..age 13...lace maker...brn Leicester

charles C..son..age 11..scholar...brn Leicester

Kate...daur..age 9..scholar..brn Leicester

Squires...son...age 6..scholar...brn Leicester

Ada...daur..age 3...brn Leicester

Thomas P..son..age 11 months..brn Leicester

They were living at 85 Bustall? St, Leicester, Leicestershire

Rg11, piece 3163, folio 34, page 9


1891

John Palmer...head...age 56..boot manufacturer...brn Leicester

Elizabeth...wife...age 53..brn London

Charles F..son...age 21...clerk...brn Leicester

Kate...daur..age 19...linker hosiery hand..brn Leicester

Stuires/Squires?...son..age 17...laster...brn Leicester

Ada..daur...age 13..warehouse girl...brn Leicester

Thomas C..son..age 10...scholar...brn Leicester

They were living at 35 Wand St, Leicester

RG12, Piece 2533, folio 143, page 20


1901

John Palmer...head...age 65...currier (leather)...brn Leicester

Elizabeth Palmer...wife...age 62..brn London

Beatrice Gent...daur (married)...age 36..hosiery winder..brn Northampton

Squire Palmer..son..age 25..shoe hand/ heel maker ...brn Leicester

Thomas Palmer...son..age 20..shoe hand/ getter off..brn Leicester

Beatrice Gent..grand daur..age 8...brn Great Pearley, Leicestershire

Living at 6 Crafton St, Leicester

Rg13, Piece 2992, folio 31, page 1

Not sure of a Sydney Palmer?

[lisasteve34]

who was sydney's father?

[Annie65115]

I have him (Joseph) 

1841 - Atkin St, St Mary, Leicester
Joseph Palmer age 30  Wool comber
Caroline Palmer      35
Caroline                   3
Elizabeth                 14
Sarah                      12
John                         7
Maria                        1

by 1851, Caroline (snr) is shown as head of household, living at Henshaw St, Leic St Mary, with the above children plus Joseph age 5. The younger Caroline is shown as 10 years old and even she is shown as working ("Cotton xxx"- same as her mother - I can't read the second word). The other children (exceot Joseph) are working as hosiers.

HO107/2090 Folio 631 Page 37

Joseph snr has disappeared (although Caroline seems to have said that she was married, rather than widowed) - perhaps someone else will find him?

[Annie65115]

BTW a currier is one who worked tanning leather by incorporating grease into it.

John Palmer is shown in 1861 visiting the OHare family in Little Gonerby, just outside Grantham.

By 1871, John was married to Elizabeth and was living in 85, Birstall St, St Margaret, Leic with the older children that you already know about - Henry through to Charles. Again, he's a currier.

[niglor]

My gt Uncle Sydney Palmer's father was a Thomas. This is the only info I have on him tho.

Maybe your Thomas is his dad as he is aged  20 on your 1901 census?

Niglor

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s ..Folks

Transcription of the 1851.Census returns
HO 107. / 2090. / 631. / 37..
Leicester.
St: Mary’s parish.
Henshaw Street.

Caroline   Palmer   Head   Mar   Aged.42   F   Cotton Brace Maker   Lei   Leicester
Elizabeth   Palmer   Dau   Um.   Aged.24   F   Mender Of Fancy Hos.   Lei   Leicester
Sarah   Palmer   Dau   Um.   Aged.22   F   Mender Of Fancy Hos.   Lei   Leicester
John   Palmer   Son   Um.   Aged.16   M   Currier App.   Lei   Leicester
Caroline   Palmer   Dau      Aged.12   F   Fancy Work   Lei   Leicester
Maria   Palmer   Dau      Aged.10   F   Cotton Brace Maker   Lei   Leicester
Joseph   Palmer   Son      Aged. 5   M   Scholar   Lei   Leicester

MIKE.