Glasgow Hunter Family

[Mousey]

Roly

I have been in contact with a Hunter descendant who currnetly lives in the USA who has a copy of the Bakers book with the Hunter enteries you have on Ancestry.

She found that Archibald Campbell, Baker and Helen Paterson had:
- a lawful son , William, born 5th Dec 1770 wit. John Craig and William Ewing
- a lawful dau, Helen, wit. David Smith and Andrew Menzies, Baker

Archibald Campbell was John Craig's apprentice and William Ewing was apprentice to John Patersone (1747).

Andrew Menzies is the son of John Menzies.

Helen Paterson born July 23, 1754 to James Paterson and Mary Menzies, wit. John Reid and James McEldoer (sp?).

IGI has James Paterson and a Mary Menzies or Minges having children
Jean Pateron 29 Dec 1748 Glasgow
William Paterson 24 Jan 1751 Glasgow
Helen Paterson 23 Jul 1754 Glasgow

James Patersone entered the Incorporation of Bakers in 1752 and is the son of John Patersone.

The National Archive of Scotland holds sequestration papers dated 1796 (CS230/SEQNS/H/1/11) for John Hunter, Baker of Glasgow. Trustee named is James Smith, who died in 1805 replaced by Patrick Smith who himself was replaced (1813)by Henry Haldane. Creditors include a Robert Jamieson.

There is a will for a James Smith, Baker of Glasgow, dated 21/5/1804 and also a will of a Patrick Smith, Slater, Glasgow 13/9/1810.

I plan to eventually order a copy of these papers as I am sure they hold vital clues.

The Edingburgh Gazette 1st Feb 1820 has an entry which states that a Joh Jamieson senior, was a merchant in Glasgow who split from the firm of Paterson, Jamieson and Co. of Glasgow. The firm continued with the following partners:
James Paterson, John Jamieson snr, Robert Paterson, John Jamieson jnr and Matthew Alexander.
This was witnessed by James Thomson and Andrew Ramsey.

I have to go for now but I will see what else I have to add.

Marie

[Roly_J]

Marie,

That is brilliant.  Regarding Archibald Campbell and Helen Paterson's children, I had them as having a daughter, Susan Campbell, who married John Hunter.  Are you able to confirm this or have I gone wrong here?

I'd be very interested to know if you uncover anything else in your research.  Are you on ancestry or Genes Reunited?

Roly

[Mousey]

Hi Roly

I believe we are correct in thinking that Jonh Hunter married Susan Campbell.

Scotlands People show a marriage of a John Hunter and Susanna Campbell in Glasgow 14th Oct 1787.
The same site has a record of a Susan Campbell christ. 3rd Aug 1772 with parents given as Archbald Campbell and Helen Paterson.

John and Susan have a daught. called Helen, born 16 Jan 1788 baptised in Cardoss,
Dunbarton. This daughter may have been named after Susan's mother.

I am on both Ancestry and Genes.

Marie

[Roly_J]

Marie,

I'd be very interested to know if James Paterson and Mary Menzies had another child (or if James had a son by someone else).  I have been trying to find out why my ggg grandfather, William Jackson, was brought into the guild of bakers by John Hunter.  There was a William Jackson born at the right time who was son of an Andrew Jackson and Agnes Paterson.  She was from Glasgow and the daughter of John Paterson.  This could be the link, if I can tie John Paterson to the Patersons on the Hunter side.

Roly

[Mousey]

I have made lots of progress with this Hunter family but have now again come up against a block.

Alfred Sutherland Hunter and Norman Murdoch Hunter were brought up by an Brownlee family after their parents had both died 1911. I was told that Mr Brownlee was a Tailor by trade and lived in the Glasgow area. He had a son who was badly injured or killed in WW1. I would like to find out more about this Brownlee family - what connection, if any, they had with the Hunter family which led to this arrangement.

I also have read the will of Moses Alfred Hunter, the father of the above, and he had an interest in a property "aquired right by assignation" namely No.3 Queens Gate, Dowanhill, Glasgow. Also "granted quoad the personal obligation by John Tait merchant, Thurso amd Robert Muir Easdale, merchant, Glasgow, as Trustees". And "in favour of the Rev. William Young and others Trustees for behoof of Mrs Marion Carruth or Young - recorded in the Division of the General Register of Sasines - 18th May 1910".

Can anyone help me understand what all of this means?

Mousey

[mikey2510]

Hi Mousy

My father was Norman Sutherland Hunter, he was the grandson of Moses Hunter grain merchant. His father died aged 26, also named Norman and my dad was then brought up by his mother. We have never known my father's side of the family as those connections were lost when he was so young. Have same information as yourself and have recently found gravestone of Moses in Glasgow Necropolis. Would love to learn more about my dad's family. Hope you see this soon.

Misty

[Mousey]

Hi Misty

Good to hear from you.
I have a lot of information available to share with you. Not sure what you do know and what you would like to know. What is your area of interest? I have also recently found the MI in the Necropolis. My late Mother-in-Law remembered travelling up to Scotland when she was very young to visit family in Bishopbriggs. I have some pictures of her father, Alfred Sutherland Hunter, which I could share if you are interested.

Regards
Mousey

[mikey2510]

Hi Mousy

Am absolutly delighted to hear from you, my mum and I have been trying for the past 7 years to trace members of my father's family. I have some information also but it might be similar to yours. Is there any way to contact you apart from the roots chat or would prefer to correspond this way.

My dad was Norman Sutherland Hunter, he was born 24/08/1931 and we lost him 23/11/2009.
My Gran was Jane Barrie and after my grandpa died aged 26 in 1932 she raised my dad on her own and we have very little information about the Hunter side of the family. Having looked back at the information again I am assuming that the grain merchant side of the business was lost during the WW2 during the blitz.

Your mother in law would have been my dad's cousin, her father my dad's uncle. Such a shame they never met. My Gran has a wee red book with an address for Essex and I wonder if that would be your mother in law? :Mrs M Hunter, Drumgoyne, Chelmsford Essex. Did your mother in law have any siblings?

I have photos of my father and only one of Norman Murdoch Hunter but could also send them to you.

So look forward to hearing more

Norma   

[rosie17]

Hi Norma you can send Mousy a private message where you can give him your e-mail address to correspond that way
Rosie