Glasgow Hunter Family

[sancti]

Possible match for 1841

1841 HUNTER MOSES Male aged  14 GORBALS GLASGOW/LANARK

[AMBLY]

Hi Sancti

I'm pretty sure the 14 yr old in Gorbals 1841, per my first reply, is the Moses HUNTER who was from the Timber Merchant family, married Maria McNAB, died 1872. Lots of refs to that family in the Gazette too!

I'm a little suspicious of George HUNTER, 20, Baker in 1841 with John & Elizabeth - wondering if this is in fact, 'our' Moses?

Cheers
AMBLY

[Mousey]

Hi

I was wondering the same thing about George/Moses as I couldn't find a suitable candidate for George on any later census. He could have course emigrated or died. Moses did call one of his sons George.

I found an entry on the Ancestry message board that contained info taken from the "Incorporation of Bakers of Glasgow" lists dated 1890. It stated that a Moses Hunter entered as a member 27th Aug 1845, was the son of John Hunter, entered 5th Jun 1817, who was the son of John Hunter, entered 19th Apr 1791, son-in-law of Archibald Campbell, entered 30th Apr 1772, apprentice of John Craig.

This could be my Hunters.

Also, the Post Office directory 1870 has listed at 30 Hope Street, Glasgow
John Hunter and Sons, corn merchants
J. E. Hunter
Moses, Hunter
Maurice Ogston White
Arch. Campbell, grain merchant.

A sister of Moses' wife, Jane/Jeanie Sutherland, married a William Kerr and a person with that name is at 42 Hope Street at the same date listed as a grain and flour merchant with an Archibald Campbell.

The IGI has a Hunter family with a John Hunter (b1766 Glasgow) at the head, a wife Susan Campbell (b1770 Glasgow) and 9 children
Archibald b1792
Susan b1794
John b1796
Moses b1798
Ann b1801
Janet b1803
Susan b1805
Robert b1807
William b1809

A very large family indeed.

The John b 1796 could be the John Hunter who heads the family you suspect is my Moses's family. Moses would be named for his Uncle in this case.
This family are also merchants - grain, flour and other materials.

I cannot thank you both for the help and leads you have given me.
I am looking forward to seeing my mother-in-law tomorrow and telling her what we have discovered. Her father died when she was young so she didn't have the chance to ask him directly about his family roots. She was born in the South of England and had no contact with her fathers family in Scotland.

Thanks again
Marie.

[sancti]

The OPR's have the following BAPTISM's for John Hunter and Mary England

16/07/1818 HUNTER MARY daur of JOHN HUNTER/MARY ENGLAND

30/08/1819 HUNTER JOHN son of ENGLAND JOHN HUNTER/MARY ENGLAND

17/06/1821 HUNTER GEORGE son of JOHN HUNTER/MARY ENGLAND 

24/05/1823 HUNTER MOSES son of JOHN HUNTER/MARY ENGLAND 

30/09/1825 HUNTER ALEXANDER son of JOHN HUNTER/MARY ENGLAND 

12/03/1828 HUNTER CHARLES WALKER son of JOHN HUNTER/MARY ENGLAND 

24/11/1829 HUNTER ROBERT son of JOHN HUNTER/MARY ENGLAND

So Mary was still alive in 1829

On the SP Death Index there is a possible record for Mary Hunter

  12/03/1832 HUNTER MARY   Female at  GLASGOW

The OPR's also confirm the marriage that Ambly posted

15/12/1832 HUNTER JOHN and ELIZABETH MCLASKY at Gorbals

And his first marriage to Mary England

21/07/1817 HUNTER JOHN and MARY ENGLAND at Glasgow

[Mousey]

Wow!

I viewed the will of John Hunter who died 1853 last night on SP and this confirms your OPR baptism records. John England Hunter was the son of this John and one of his many executors. The other children mentioned were George, Moses, Alexander and ELizabeth. The wifes name was Elizabeth McLuckie. John had a brother called Robert who is stated as being a baker in Rothesay. John owned quite a lot of land in varios places including Millport, Port Glasgow, Helensburgh and Glasgow. He also held shares in many companies including the Glasgow Gravitation Water Company and the Great Eastern Railway Company. He names some very prominent people in his will including Andrew Hunter Esq late of Cessnoch Park. John owned some land boardering the Park. He also mentions that the land boarded with that belonging to John Hamilton. It is hard to read and very complicated. It will take me some time to sort out. His estate was worth a little under 8500 pounds sterling at his death.

How fortunes change in a couple of generations.

I shall view the will of John England when I have digested this one.

Thanks for putting me onto the SP.
Next I shall have to organise a trip up to Glasgow.

Marie.

[Mousey]

I have now downloaded the will of John England Hunter from SP and it confirms that Moses Hunter was his brother. He left his estate to his nephew John England Hunter. A very large estate, which explains how he was able to retire to Blairlomond, Lochgoilhead with his family.

I think this about wraps up this mystery.

I have told my mum-in-law of her roots and she was extremely delighted.
She asked me to pass on her thanks to all involved.

A very satisfying outcome.
May many more people find what they are searching for using this site and may fortune smile.

Marie

[Roly_J]

Hi Marie,

I just stumbled across this thread.  It looks as though you came across my thread on Ancestry regarding the "Incorporation of Bakers".   I'd be really interested to know if you have come up with any more since then.

Roly

[Mousey]

Hi Roly

What is your interest in this Hunter family?

I have managed to unearth more on this family so if you can tell me what you are particularly interested in I may be able to help.

Marie

[Roly_J]

Marie,

Susan Hunter, dau of John Hunter b. 1766, married my ggg grandfather William Jackson.  He became a  member of the "Incorporation of Bakers" in Glasgow as a result of his father in law.  I have very little information apart from that John Hunter was sponsored by Archibald Campbell when he became a member of the Incorporation of Bakers. 

I'd be very interested to find out more about this side of the family, so anything you have uncovered would be of great interest to me.

Roly