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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 09 May 09 13:19 BST (UK) »
I would guess that the name was most likely tomlins.

There are a couple named Humpfry in Shropshire:

Could this be Ann in 1841?

Meole Brace near Shrewsbury.

Mary Evans 20
Ann Tomlins 15
Thomas Price 50
John Thomes 60
Susannah Price 45

HO107  Piece 911  Book  17  Folio  5  Page 4

All servants, the previous household is a Farm, interesting that there are Prices woking on the same farm.

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 09 May 09 13:34 BST (UK) »
possible extracted baptism in Condover, not far from Meole Brace & Shrewsbury IGI batch C008832

Mary Tomlins 2/1/1825 dau of Humphrey & Laetitia


Several Richard Banks in the IGI batch C010563 for Bilston but only one with father Samuel
Richard Banks bp 24/9/1820 son of Samuel & Mary

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 09 May 09 13:58 BST (UK) »
osprey, thank you so very much! this seems like them both...that's great.

i don't know why i can't seem to find much information about the swift she did marry, but least i have her real surname now and i can hunt further.

thank you :)
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 09 May 09 14:04 BST (UK) »
Hello

 I found this marriage in the BMD index, don't know if it fits in.

Q2 1847  Mary Tomline + Thos Swift Shrewsbury 18 259

There is a rake of deaths for Thomas Swift in the county of Shropshire, I don't know the area well enough to take a guess.

Hope it helps

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 09 May 09 14:07 BST (UK) »
THANK YOU!!! mothball i could kiss you :-* it MUST be them!!! it's regular to name your first son after the father so it more than fits in!!!

finally it's starting to unravel, looks like a trip to the shropshire archives for me doesn't it :)

once more i cannot tell you how thankful i am :)

i still need to find my thomas swifts birth info- bilston 1851 (ish!) :)
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 09 May 09 14:09 BST (UK) »
possible marriage?

Mary Tomline june qtr 1847 Shrewsbury vol 18 pg 259 with Thomas Swift on the same page

birth reg
Ann Swift june qtr 1848 Shrewsbury vol 18 pg 168

2 posible death regs for Thomas Swift in Wolverhampton - dec qtr 1857 & march qtr 1851

red post, but I'll go ahead because of Ann's birth reg!

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 09 May 09 14:14 BST (UK) »
1841 Upper Pulley, Meole Brace HO107/910/12 folio 20 pg 4
Humphrey Tomlins 30 ag lab
Lettice 45
Mary 15
Sarah 14
all born in county
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 09 May 09 14:15 BST (UK) »
thanks osprey :) that's ACE!!! :-* i'm so pleased!!!

i've just found humphry and 'lettice' tomlins on the 1841 census in condover where Mary was baptised!!!

after a whole year of banging my head and stumbling-in an hour it's all come to light!!!

you guys are AMAZING!!! thank you so much, without you all i would STILL be chasing my tail!!!

i know who to ask for help next time i get stuck  ;)

i just saw your post lol, we posted same time!
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 09 May 09 14:22 BST (UK) »
 ;D

Humphrey Tomlins married Letitia Downton 5/5/1823 Berrington extracted IGI batch M008711

this may be a second marriage as there's a baptism of a Humphrey to Humphrey & Martha Tomlins in Condover 20/2/1803 and
Humphrey Tomlins md Martha Morris 17/5/1802 St Chad's Shrewsbury IGI batch M015752

so plenty of things to check in the archives!
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb