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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 21 April 09 19:32 BST (UK) »
thought so! so that's why i didn't know about lucy...hmmmm... it seems the house was a knocking shop lol! :o ::)

as there are 2 more girls underneath listed as the same-crikey!!!

i'm going to try and find out some more tomorrow and i will pot what i find...it's getting even more interesting :)
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 02 May 09 12:43 BST (UK) »
the plot thickens further...today i obtained MARY SWIFT'S marriage Certificate to RICHARD BANKS...

it states '10th Nov 1857'
RICHARD BANKS WIDOW 'FULL' MINER BILSTON
MARY HICKSON 'FULL' WIDOW -FATHER, LEONARD BRAZIER (DEAD)

ARGH!!!!! so you can see my dilema!!! she is on the census as stated above...this is definately the same person so what do you think? Was she a SWIFT at birth and somewhere married a HICKSON, so BRAZIER wasn't her maiden name as her parents weren't married? Maybe-i am really really stuck!!!

Any help again would be super! driving me mad now! :o :o :o
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 02 May 09 12:47 BST (UK) »
also WHY on the 1861 census is she listed as unmarried if a) she was a widow and b)already married to Richard...it all doesn't make sense!!! maybe i am wrong and this isn't the right one???
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 02 May 09 13:03 BST (UK) »
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the plot thickens further...today i obtained MARY SWIFT'S marriage Certificate to RICHARD BANKS...

it states '10th Nov 1857'
RICHARD BANKS WIDOW 'FULL' MINER BILSTON
MARY HICKSON 'FULL' WIDOW -FATHER, LEONARD BRAZIER (DEAD)

I suspect you have the wrong marriage certificate.  Remember that in 1861 she is still shown as Mary Swift housekeeper so they could not have married in 1857

Marriages December qtr 1863 
 
Richard Banks    Wolverhampton  6b 728   
Mary Swift     Wolverhampton  6b 728

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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 02 May 09 13:45 BST (UK) »
damn it!!! thank you so much for you help again-i'm still not very good at this it would appear!!! i'll try and find that certificate and get back to you :)

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Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 02 May 09 23:59 BST (UK) »
Hi,

If you can't find the birth certificate for Thomas Swift you could try for Richard's which would give you some more information about mary:

Sep 1857 Swift, Richard, Wolverhampton, 6b,   417 according to FreeBMD

One interesting family in 1851 in New Street Portabello, Willenhall, that may be worth investigating:

Thomas Price,    27,
Mary Price, 26, Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Ann Price, 3, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Thomas Price,7  Mon, Bilston, Staffordshire
Class: HO107; Piece: 2020; Folio: 391; Page: 41
Deryck

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 03 May 09 12:10 BST (UK) »
now that is interesting...PRICE???!!! so very confused now but thank you so very very very much for this information, i'll let you know how i get on.

i didn't think to look under another surname :) ::) ;D
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #16 on: Monday 04 May 09 00:47 BST (UK) »
Looks like Mary Swift and Richard Banks married Dec. qtr. 1863 Wolverhampton - ref. 6b 728.

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #17 on: Monday 04 May 09 00:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Annette

See my reply dated 2nd May

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I suspect you have the wrong marriage certificate.  Remember that in 1861 she is still shown as Mary Swift housekeeper so they could not have married in 1857

Marriages December qtr 1863 
 
Richard Banks    Wolverhampton  6b 728   
Mary Swift     Wolverhampton  6b 728

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)
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