Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!

[kneller1980]

well martha died 1819 so if the dob of martha is wrong it could fit...argh going round in circles again

[kneller1980]

still cannot find thomas swift c1851 bilston, birth certificate...it's officially driving me mad! any ideas? please?!

[osprey]

don't forget that the ages in 1841 were rounded down, so Martha is 20 - 24 and could be a daughter of Martha.

It could be that Thomas wasn't registered. You could get Ann's birth cert instead  -
Ann Swift june qtr 1848 Shrewsbury vol 118 pg 168

[kneller1980]

Anns certificate ordered, yet more waiting-i think i'm too impatient for this.
i'm thinking he may of been registered but maybe somewhere else...maybe he wasn't born in Bilston/Wolverhampton and born elsewhere...i've got 3 different certificates and none of them are him...

[kneller1980]

I hate it when that happens, luckily it has not happened that often on my tree:)

I can't see a good candidate for Thomas Price, there is another Thomas Price born Bradley, Bilston that is a good candidate for the Dec 1849 in Wolverhampton.

Have you posted the details from the marriage of Thomas Swift and Ann?

Deryck

just wondered whether you had a go index for this birth? i ordered another one and it wasn't him but not come across this one.
thanks

[plunquet]

I wonder if the father's name might be Saml as a contraction of Samuel?

[kneller1980]

i did think that may be a possiability but haven't come across one yet-i'm not able to get to the shropshire archives before it closes for a month for the refurb so i supposed i'll just have to wait and see...

do you think the fact it has : after the first name could indicate it has been shortened? i've never seen that before on any certificates

Thanks for replying

[deryckjohn]

I hate it when that happens, luckily it has not happened that often on my tree:)

I can't see a good candidate for Thomas Price, there is another Thomas Price born Bradley, Bilston that is a good candidate for the Dec 1849 in Wolverhampton.

Have you posted the details from the marriage of Thomas Swift and Ann?

Deryck

just wondered whether you had a go index for this birth? i ordered another one and it wasn't him but not come across this one.
thanks

I think it was this one,     Dec 1849 Wolverhampton  Vol 17 Page 303

Deryck

[kneller1980]

that was the one i got, it's not him his father is listed as John!

chasing my tail now!

Even tho i have now found a Samuel in Pitchford AND his sibling and parents on the Parish registers i obviously need to find if he is Thos (thomas) father...

I don't know where to look on line...

the SAMUEL SWIFT i have found was baptised in PITCHFORD, SHROPS 15 DEC 1799, SON OF JOHN AND SARAH SWIFT.

does anyone know where to look to find him and see if he's linked