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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #54 on: Monday 18 May 09 10:51 BST (UK) »
well martha died 1819 so if the dob of martha is wrong it could fit...argh going round in circles again :-[
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #55 on: Monday 18 May 09 14:40 BST (UK) »
still cannot find thomas swift c1851 bilston, birth certificate...it's officially driving me mad! any ideas? please?! ;D
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 19 May 09 09:42 BST (UK) »
don't forget that the ages in 1841 were rounded down, so Martha is 20 - 24 and could be a daughter of Martha.

It could be that Thomas wasn't registered. You could get Ann's birth cert instead  -
Ann Swift june qtr 1848 Shrewsbury vol 118 pg 168
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 19 May 09 10:39 BST (UK) »
Anns certificate ordered, yet more waiting-i think i'm too impatient for this.
i'm thinking he may of been registered but maybe somewhere else...maybe he wasn't born in Bilston/Wolverhampton and born elsewhere...i've got 3 different certificates and none of them are him... ::)
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)


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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 16:57 BST (UK) »
I hate it when that happens, luckily it has not happened that often on my tree:)

I can't see a good candidate for Thomas Price, there is another Thomas Price born Bradley, Bilston that is a good candidate for the Dec 1849 in Wolverhampton.

Have you posted the details from the marriage of Thomas Swift and Ann?

Deryck

just wondered whether you had a go index for this birth? i ordered another one and it wasn't him but not come across this one.
thanks
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #59 on: Friday 22 May 09 03:20 BST (UK) »
I wonder if the father's name might be Saml as a contraction of Samuel?

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #60 on: Friday 22 May 09 08:27 BST (UK) »
i did think that may be a possiability but haven't come across one yet-i'm not able to get to the shropshire archives before it closes for a month for the refurb :( so i supposed i'll just have to wait and see...

do you think the fact it has : after the first name could indicate it has been shortened? i've never seen that before on any certificates ???

Thanks for replying :)
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #61 on: Friday 22 May 09 09:24 BST (UK) »
I hate it when that happens, luckily it has not happened that often on my tree:)

I can't see a good candidate for Thomas Price, there is another Thomas Price born Bradley, Bilston that is a good candidate for the Dec 1849 in Wolverhampton.

Have you posted the details from the marriage of Thomas Swift and Ann?

Deryck

just wondered whether you had a go index for this birth? i ordered another one and it wasn't him but not come across this one.
thanks

I think it was this one,     Dec 1849 Wolverhampton  Vol 17 Page 303

Deryck

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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #62 on: Friday 22 May 09 09:39 BST (UK) »
that was the one i got, it's not him :( his father is listed as John! :'(

chasing my tail now!

Even tho i have now found a Samuel in Pitchford AND his sibling and parents on the Parish registers i obviously need to find if he is Thos (thomas) father...

I don't know where to look on line...

the SAMUEL SWIFT i have found was baptised in PITCHFORD, SHROPS 15 DEC 1799, SON OF JOHN AND SARAH SWIFT.

does anyone know where to look to find him and see if he's linked ??? ??? ???
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)