William WATSON

[Tricia MORE]

a good website for ALFORD>
http://www.alfordimages.com/picture/number96.asp
NOTE:Mr James Watson (carpenter, Ardgathan),
is on main photo. 


Lynne - I forgot to say that my step-children's maternal line were in ALFORD around early 1800s 
ELLIS  LESLIE COW LAING  names.
Small World !
Anyone else here have these names?

Tricia

[Tricia MORE]

Me again
but this could be William & Margaret in 1841 census.  Ages not always correct in that census.

Piece: SCT1841/171 Place: Alford -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Alford Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 4 Page: 2
Address: Cornerstone
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     Surname   First name(s)   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   Remarks   
    REID   William   M   68   Ag Lab    Aberdeenshire       
    REID   Margaret   F   74       Aberdeenshire

The site for looking for some census in Scotland is
http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
not all years areas there but I did a search on 1841 County Abderdeen area Alford and surname REID - left years and forename blank.
Alford also has 1851 and Margaret is alone there aged 84.
Problem is that both also through up a William Reid born Alford c 1800.!!!  I will try to find  a death cert for him.

Tricia

[Tricia MORE]

Hi Lynne
Audrey could be correct .
 

I have just found in ALFORD records a death for WILLIAM REID

Death 1887 William Reid son of William Reid and Margt Watt
Aged 89 a crofter ADDRESS  is ARDGATHEN, ALFORD.
 widower of Ann Burnett. Son Archibald informant - his add Cornerstone, Alford.

So in my view this rules out Wm born 1798 as Lynne's guy.
Not sure what you all think now but the Address ARDGATHEN on the Australian MI must mean we are close.
Did Margaret W have a child pre marrying W Reid.   

According to census 1841 1851 Marg W   born c 1767 Alford.  She could easily have had a child(in or out of wedlock) before marriage to W Reid.

[Lynnee]

Dear Trica and Audrey, Thank you very much for all your hard work in finding out family information for me. Now I need spend some time processing it all into my Family Tree.
Love
Lynnee

[Bill Fraser]

Hi Lynnee,
Thought you would be interested in the following :-

CALEDONIAN MERCURY
MONDAY, 9 SEPTEMBER 1916

The following persons have been served with indictments to stand trial before the ensuing Circuit Court of Justiciary, at Aberdeen, viz
William Watson, alias William Reid for forgery.

CALEDONIAN MERCURY
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1816

Aberdeen, Sept 18
Yesterday the Circuit Court of Justiciary was opened here by the Right Honourable Lord Gillies.
After the usual preliminaries, the Court proceeded to the trial of William Watson, alias Reid, shoemaker in Skene Street, Aberdeen, charged with forgery. The  indictment accused the panel of being guilty of uttering and using, as true and genuine, a false and forged letter, purporting to be written by John Reid, farmer of Guise, in the parish of Tough, and addressed to Mr Leith, builder in Aberdeen, requesting him to advance to the panel, William Reid, the sum of L10 Sterling, on his, Mr John Reid’s account. In this imposition, it appeared, that he succeeded, Mr Leith having advanced the sum desired; but at the same time taking due precautions to identify the prisoner, in case the letter in question should turn out to be forged. The libel was restricted to an arbitrary punishment, in terms of his own confession, and will receive sentence on Thursday.
Counsel for the Crown, Samuel McCormick, Esq. For the panel, William Buchanan, Esq.

CALEDONIAN MERCURY
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 1816

Aberdeen, Sept 19.
The court met this day, and proceeded to pass sentence on those who had been tried on the 17th.
William Watson, alias Reid, being again called to the bar, received sentence of transportation for 14 years.

Regards.
Bill

[Tricia MORE]

Noticed in the data from Bill that John Reid was in village of Tough.
NB
Birth of a William Reid   19 DEC 1792   Tough, Aberdeen, Scotland
although parents are John Reid Elis Robertson..........  ?  C112444
they married 1778........ Kenmay ABD.
 Wouldn't give us Watson name though. 

[Lynnee]

Hi Bill Thanks for your information.
OK I will disregard the birth information so far. I am wondering if he used the name REID as an alias just for his crime? Given that he was stating the letter was from John Reid.
Trish and Audrey thanks for your input.
You have given me a lot of information about his crime.
Being convict stock  living in Aust. I am not familiar with the area in question. But I have been to Scotland back in 1982 and loved it.
Love
Lynnee

[audrey]

Lynnee
just a thought ,did William have any children ?their names might help

Audrey

[Lynnee]

Lynnee
just a thought ,did William have any children ?their names might help

Audrey

Hi Audrey, Here is the information that I have on William WATSON.
Love
Lynnee

Born  about 1894 Alford, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Death 30 March 1841 aged 46 years
NSW Birth Death & Marriage Australia. V1841 1505 102 & V1841 1596 103 (sighted)
St Andrews Scots Church Sydney - Presbyterian
Buried “Sandhills” Sydney 31st March 1841
Ref. Grave stone Inscriptions NSW Vol 1. Elizabeth and Devonshire Streets- Sandhills by Keith A Johnson & Malcolm R Sanity pub 1973
NSW Tasmania Settler Convict List 1817
William Watson, Lord Eldon, Arrival 1817, Sentenced: Aberdeen, Sept 1816 ,
Australian Convict Register
1810-1817 William  Watson (alias Reid)
Sentenced Aberdeen Court of Judiciary, 19th Sept 1816, 14 years,
1821-1822 William Watson , 14 years
Australian Convict Muster 1822
William Watson (alias Read) Lord Eldon, 14 years, Landholder Windsor
NSW Tasmania 1806-1849 General Muster 1825
William Watson, Lord Eldon, Arrival 1817, Sentenced 14 years, Shoemaker Windsor/Sydney
Children: Jane 11, Daniel 9, Thomas 7, Mary 2
Australian 1828 Census TNA copy
William Watson Age 34,  Lord Eldon, Arrival 1817,14 years, Shoemaker Windsor
Grace Watson Age: 40 Friendships, 1811, 7yrs
Jane 13, Daniel 11, Mary 5, Martha 3

Jane, Thomas and Daniel are from Grace's 1st husband John McFarlane.
Mary and Martha are Grace & William's daughters. I, Lynne am descendant from Mary WATSON.

National Archives of Scotland NAS Catalogue.
William Watson, alias Reid, shoemaker, Address: Ardgathen. Entry relating to the crime of forgery. Date of trial: 17 Sep 1816, Verdict: Guilty, Verdict Comments: Guilty in terms of own confession, Sentence: Transportation - 14 years, Note: Sentenced on 19 September 1816 (see JC11/56, f.49r).