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[deb usa]

from NA

Lease EE 501/13/151 Proprietors of the Navigation 2 William Jones of Woodhall in Sudbury, gent. and Thomas Adkin of Sudbury, merchant 1 to 2, piece of land, parcel of the Nonsuch in All Saints and St Gregory, for 21 years Plan in margin. [Suffolk, Bury St Edmunds, SUDBURY Date: 1820.

could he be a relative of Major Charles and Ernest, Chartist?

deb

[frederickay]

Hi guys , what a flying start !!!had to grab coffee and glasses ..
deb = Lavinia de irujo b1794 is the daughter of Sarah knight and don Carlos Martinez DE irujo..Baptism found .
 it is her daughter LAVINIA FREDERICA aka Fredericka. b. abt 1817 who i am looking for her baptism .
GUSTAVUS Jones  is interesting ... wow never seen that before ..might be a hint ....
the b in Ernest 's son is for beaufort (his posh godfather ).
my reasoning for thinking the family is related to William brasier Jones is from Ernest's1843 diary suggesting his father's great uncle might be JONES OF WOODHALL>
he goes on to say the family has homes "The grove " which i think is ballingdon grove ...and in sudbury and Clare . we found that William brasier father was William Jones . now i think Charles garret Jones inherits the land in Clare .
it is all coincidence . somewhere in the past i thought i had written down ACTON in regards my Jones . i see it mentioned there .
Charles Jones was married twice .
once to unknown relative of Provost of Eaton and secondly in 1818 to Charlotte Matilda Annesley .
his son Ernest married Jane Atherley...
it is very confusing .......
thanks for any help......
Jan
P>S>
it looks like i haven't progressed but those who participated in first search i did wonders with
Frances (fanny) Clifton . tracked her down from London to hong Kong to china . got papers and wills . her family married into Stockwell in Brisbane , limbys in singapore ...

[Spidermonkey]

http://www.aggsh.de/down/vr/1835C4777_Schoenningstedt.pdf

The above is (I think) land registry/census info for Schleswig-Holstein in 1835.  At the end of page 7 is the Major and his household.  I have no German at all, so I shall be translating piecemeal so bear with me!

Name/Ge/Alter/Fam-stand/Beruf Status/Anmerkung
21 Kauthengebaude
Charles Gustavus Jones  M  47  Verheir  Kathenbesitzer  ANM:Bemerkungen nicht lesbar??
Charlotte Matilde  F  38 Verheir  seine Ehefrau  ANM:Bermerkungen
Ernst Charles Jones  M  16 Unverheir  ihr Sohn  ANM:Bemerkungen nicht zu entiziffern
Johann Christoph Schwarz  M  27  Unverheir  Hauslehrer  hat Titel der Theologie
Christian Christoph Lemann  M  31 Unverheir  Kutscher
Johann Carl Brandt  M  17  Unverheir ??  ANM: Beruf
Mary Ann Elise Debry  F  40  Witwe  Kochin
Rosaline Debry  F  16  Unverheir  Hausmadchen  Tochter der Kochin

[frederickay]

Hi , looking at the German census .. thank you ,i notice Ernst spelt as such so maybe Gustavus is a German spelling for what ?
it should be obvious but i don't speak any German and surely its not just GUS> thanks for your help. Jan

[Spidermonkey]

Name/Ge/Alter/Fam-stand/Beruf Status/Anmerkung
Name/Sex/Age/Marital staus/Job/Note
21 Kauthengebaude
Charles Gustavus Jones  M  47  Verheir  Kathenbesitzer  ? Besitzer means owner so perhaps house owner?ANM:Bemerkungen nicht lesbar?? remarks not legible
Charlotte Matilde  F  38 Verheir  seine Ehefrau  ANM:Bermerkungen
Ernst Charles Jones  M  16 Unverheir  ihr Sohn  ANM:Bemerkungen nicht zu entiziffern not able to decipher remarks
Johann Christoph Schwarz  M  27  Unverheir  Hauslehrer house teacher hat Titel der Theologie has theology title
Christian Christoph Lemann  M  31 Unverheir  Kutscher coachman
Johann Carl Brandt  M  17  Unverheir ??  ANM: Beruf
Mary Ann Elise Debry  F  40  Witwe widow  Kochin cook
Rosaline Debry  F  16  Unverheir  Hausmadchen  Tochter der Kochin daughter of cook

[deb usa]

Sleep well MA 


1851
Ernest C Jones 32 Barrister out of practice b Prussia
Jane G Jones wife 33 IGI has their marriage , Jane is nee Gibson, b Highgate
Ernest B A Jones son 9 b Middlesex, London
Edward L R Jones son 6 b ditto
Llewellyn A A Jones son 4 b Ditto

so who is Jane Gibson then?


Spider ........woohooooooooooo on the German stuff ...FAB!!!!!! 
Does it state where Charles Gustavus was born?

deb

ps Hi Frederika ...

[Spidermonkey]

Unfortunately, it doesn't mention place of birth, but the document I was working of is a transcription by a local genealogical society so it might be worth contacting them to see if they have any further information.

Have we looked at the Charles Augustus Jones ch 1785 St Pancras to Isaac and Mary?

[Spidermonkey]

Email addy for the German local history group is AGGSH [at] aggsh.de (no spaces and @ obviously  )

[Spidermonkey]

According to The Living Age ... By Eliakim Littell, Making of America Project, Robert S. Littell (Published by The Living Age Co. Inc., 1869) the King of Hanover was Major Charles Jones' godfather.

Sorry, I misread.  The King of Hanover (e.g. DUke of Cumberland) was Ernest's godfather