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Re: Looking for Marriage Details - Parish of Porstea
« Reply #18 on: Monday 20 April 09 22:56 BST (UK) »
Not sure if having their childrens names is going to be of any help but they are;

Rosina Jenkins, b 1855 Plymouth, d 1921 IoW Hampshire
Henry John Jenkins, b 1858 Landport (Portsmouth), Hampshire
Albert Edward Jenkins, b Mar 1864 Freshwater IoW, d 3 Mar 1908 Wellington District, Perth, Western Australia
Matilda Jenkins, b 1867 Freshwater IoW.

Rosina is another hard one as we think she appears as a servant (Rose Jenkins) in the 1871 census (from memory) but can't find any further mention of her until she married Alfred Chambers in 1887 in Christ Church, Sandown, Hampshire. From there we have the list of children all born in IoW.

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Corey (Vicki's husband)   :)

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Re: Looking for Marriage Details - Parish of Porstea
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 21 April 09 08:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Corey,

The were married in 1877 I believe, and already had 2 children by 1881:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0649/
RG11/1186 32 6

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Re: Looking for Marriage Details - Parish of Porstea
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 21 April 09 16:07 BST (UK) »
Well I stumbled across this item of information this evening not sure how it managed to slip by;

John & Mary Ann married on this date and the church;
12 OCT 1853      Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England
Reference: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=500028082093&lds=1&region=2&regionfriendly=British+Isles&frompage=99

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Re: Looking for Marriage Details - Parish of Porstea
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 23 April 09 16:40 BST (UK) »
For some reason I can't access the Family Search site but this marriage could be of significance to this research:

3Q 1843 George CHITTER/Phebe JENKINS Portsea Isle 7 185

I don't have access to 1851 Census but their 1841 Portsea H/H at Cottage View has a John JENKINS aged 10.

Update 24 Apr 21:35
The LDS site is running again tonight and the 1843 bride is recorded Phebe GRATTON or JENKINS.  Seems she may have been living with GRATTAN [sic] parents in 1841 with George CHITTER lodging as there is a St Mary's baptism 1802 for Phebe dau of Peter/Elizabeth GRATTON.

There is a marriage 27 May 1821 between Thomas JENKINS/Phebe GRATTON at St Mary's, Portsea.

2nd Update 02 May 17:29
John JENKINS, Bricklayer aged 21, son of Thomas JENKINS, Smith, married Julia BURRIDGE aged 18 by Certificate on 20 Jun 1852.  The abode for both was Cottage View, so this family group can now be discounted.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Looking for Marriage Details - Parish of Porstea
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 29 April 09 00:56 BST (UK) »
The Parish Register image for the John JENKINS/Mary Ann MARLOW marriage on microfiche at HRO is of very poor quality, and I tried 5 viewers before, after cleaning between the glass plates, I felt satisfied I could make out his father's name:  Henry!  I sought an Archivist's opinion, without influencing him with mine, and he answered "Henry".  The occupation was illegible.

On two occasions when I received similar poor copies of certificates from the GRO I contacted the local Superintendent Registrar in each case for confirmation of the details.  I'd be inclined to do the same here as you can quote the legible bits on the cert so that the SR is in no doubt that you hold a certified copy.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Looking for Marriage Details - Parish of Porstea
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 29 April 09 08:45 BST (UK) »
It was really good of you to check this out at HRO for Vicki.

Interesting that it gives Mary's father as Henry.  You could doubt that the marriage certificate says William but it definitely doen't say Henry.  ???
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Looking for Marriage Details - Parish of Porstea
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 29 April 09 10:41 BST (UK) »
You misunderstood, bearkat.  It was John's father recorded as Henry.

I'm going to take another look at it with a higher magnifying glass next time as an error may have crept in when the copy for the GRO was produced.  In higher magnification the image on the netspace site looks 'dodgy' as if a mistake was corrected in the middle of his father's name.

I also have a GRO cert that is at variance with a number of details for bride, father and address, and minus several marginal corrections in the original register held by a Welsh SR.

Update:
After taking another look I am even more convinced that John's father is recorded Henry in the Portsea Parish Register.  There is a possible family group in 1841 at  King Street, in Alverstoke Parish, Gosport Borough, but sadly it seems likely Henry died before 1851.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Looking for Marriage Details - Parish of Porstea
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 03 May 09 11:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the possibilities. My husband and I though that it could have been Henry previously because John has a son named 'Henry John Jenkins'. Once we saw the marriage certificate however it placed some doubts into whether or not it was the case.

I will need to dig around a bit to see if I can locate any more information that may narrow it down some more.

On another topic, I'd like to thanks everyone for helping as we were at a bit of a dead end. Also to apologise for the delays in posting due to other rl events getting in the way.

Dee-jay thakyou greatly for checking the microfiche file for me. I'm guessing HRO = Hampshire Registry Office is that right?....GRO I'm at a loss for :)

Hopefully I will be able to get back to researching a bit more and be able to post with a bit more frequency.

Thanks everyone again
Vicki

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Re: Looking for Marriage Details - Parish of Porstea
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 03 May 09 12:06 BST (UK) »
GRO equals General Register Office.  In this instance dee-jay meant a copy entry/certficate issued by the General Register office.

HRO is Hampshire Record Office - the official repository of archives for the county, located in Winchester.  Portsmouth and Southampton also have record offices which have archives for the respective cities.

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