1871 or 1881 lookup - Peters

[Bearluvin]

Hi - I would like to find the following family on the 1871 or 1881 census.  They lived in Lennox and Addington County:
Andrew (Anson) Peters, wife Melinda and daughter Annie Ruth.  Annie was born about 1868 and married around 1881 to Titus Card. 

Thank you,
Donna

[Lisa in California]

Welcome to RootsChat, Donna

1880 U.S. Census, Forest Rivers, Grand Forks, Dakota Territory, dated 11 June 1880.
Anson Peters, born about 1847 in Canada.  He was a farmer.  His parents were born in Canada.
Wife, Melinda, born about 1848 in Canada.  Her parents were born in Canada.
Daughter, Emma, born about 1873 in Canada.
Son, Willie, born about 1875 in Canada.
Daughter, May, born about 1877 in Canada.
Daughter, Trances (could be Frances), 6 months, born in Canada.

[Lisa in California]

So far, cannot find Annie.

There is a Titus Card, age 20, born in Canada, living in Rodman, Jefferson, New York in 1880.  He was a servant, farm hand and single.

[Jacquie in Canada]

Donna, I have found information which shows that Andrew and Anson were not the same person.

The following marriage is in the Ontario marriage database:

Anson Peters, 31, born Earnestown, son of John and Polley Ann Peters married Malinda Peters, 27, born Camden Township, daughter of Peter and Orilla D. Wager on 8 Apr 1876 in Frontenac County.

According to the 1851/1852 Canada census for Camden East, Addington County, John and Polly Ann Peters had sons named Andrew and Anson. Here's a link to the image at Library and Archives Canada (entry starts on line 28):
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e094/e002339978.pdf

I also found a birth in the Ontario births database for Durwood Belmont Peters born 28 Oct 1884 to John Anson Peters and Melindia Wagar.

I found a person's website that has this family included. According to his information, Melinda Wager was married first to Andrew Peters and had a number of children and then to Anson Peters and had more children. Here's a link to the page on Melinda Wager:
http://bgibbard.ca/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I126511&tree=bgibbard

Jacquie

[Bearluvin]

Thank you for the information.  I didn't expect anything so quickly.  It certainly gives me some things to check into.  The children listed in the US census don't seem to match with the ones showing on bgibbard site so I wonder if they are the same family?  The birth record for Durwood Peters is not the same as the one listed on his site either.  Very confusing. 

I would still like to find Annie Peters on the the 1871 or 1881 census if anyone has any luck with that.

[Bearluvin]

I forgot to mention that the marriage record is definitely the right one.  Melinda's maiden name was Wager.  I think I overlooked that before because she was listed as Malinda Peters.  But if she first married another Peters then it would make sense.

[polarbear]

Hello from another 'bear'

I will be looking at 1871 films tomorrow and will have a look for Annie for you.

And a warm welcome to RootsChat!

Regards,
Polarbear

[Jacquie in Canada]

Thank you for the information.  I didn't expect anything so quickly.  It certainly gives me some things to check into.  The children listed in the US census don't seem to match with the ones showing on bgibbard site so I wonder if they are the same family?  The birth record for Durwood Peters is not the same as the one listed on his site either.  Very confusing. 

On his site, he says that he isn't certain which children are from which marriage. Understandable considering it appears that none of the births were registered at the time they occurred (civil registration regarding births began in 1869 in Ontario).

The birth registration for Durwood Peters is actually a delayed registration dated May 1935 and the informant was his sister Alwilda Peters Valentine.

There is also a birth registration in the Ontario births database for Effie Maud Peters, daughter of Anson Peters and Malinda Wagar who was born 24 May 1883 in Camden Township. This birth registration is also a delayed one dated Sep 1940 and Alwilda Peters Valentine is the informant.

Regarding the census, Willie could be a nickname for Alwilda so it is possible that the enumerator assumed that Willie was male. Willie's age on that census does match up with the information Alwilda Peters Valentine gives on the delayed birth registrations (she says she was 6 years older than Effie and 7 years older than Durwood). Two of the other children on the 1880 census were May and Frances and he does have a Cecilia Mae and Frances listed. Not sure about the Emma.

If you want more possible confusion, there is a transcription of a marriage (no image) in the Ontario marriage database for an Anson Peters in 1865 as follows:

Anson Peters, 21, born Camden Township, son of John Peters and Betsy Ann Babcock married Emma Ann Bunder, 24, born Ernestown Township, daughter of Lance Bunder and Ann Hudson on 21 Jul 1865 in Sheffield Township, Frontenac County.

The age of this Anson and the name of his father match up with the information on the marriage registration to Malinda. It is possible that the given name of the mother was mistranscribed.

Hopefully Polarbear will be able to provide some answers after viewing the 1871 census.

Jacquie

[Jacquie in Canada]

From the 1900 US federal census:

McHenry, North Dakota

Arthur Valentine, head, 25, married 2 years, born Aug 1874 in England, parents born England, immigrated in 1888, farmer 
Alwelda Valentine, wife, 23, married 2 years, mother of 0 children, 0 alive, born Mar 1877 in Canada, parents born Canada, immigrated in 1886
Arthur I Peters, brother-in-law, 12, born Feb 1888 in North Dakota, parents born Canada 
Malinda Peters, mother-in-law, 50, born Oct 1849 in Canada, father born Holland, mother born Scotland, immigrated in 1886 

Malinda lists herself as being married, not a widow on this census so she and Arthur may have been visiting Alwilda on census day and not living with her.

From the 1906 census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta:

Strathcona, Alberta

Malinda Peters, head, 56, widow, born Ontario
Durwood Peters, son, 21, born Ontario
Arthur Peters, son, 18, born Ontario
Norah Peters, daughter, 15, born Ontario

This appears to be Malinda with son, John, on the 1911 Canada census (lines 19 through 26):
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=14957

From the 1916 census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta:

Bow River, Alberta

Archie Petters, 28, head, born United States, farmer
Ruth Petters, 5, sister, born Alberta
Malinda Petters, 66, mother, born Ontario

It says Ruth is Archie's sister but that is not possible.

By the way, the household immediately after Archie's consists of:

Wesley Wagar, 35, head, born Ontario, farmer
Nora Wagar, 25, wife, born United States

It seems quite possible that Nora Wagar is Malinda's daughter.

Jacquie