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Re: Cummings Of Ballycarton.
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 01 July 12 22:32 BST (UK) »
If I'm reading your latest post correctly then last 'sighting' of James & Elizabeth Cumming is 1879?
Have you searched the online civil registration index for their deaths?
James' occupation might mean he could be identified in directories- there are various ones online (free)- see reply #4 for links.

Ballymoney Cemetery has some online records- se Ballymoney Ancestry website to search (registration is free).
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Cummings Of Ballycarton.
« Reply #46 on: Monday 02 July 12 23:13 BST (UK) »
Could this be James Cummings in 1901 census Ballymoney?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003983906/

1911 Main Street, Ballymoney

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001376594/

Date of Marriage: 1 Feb 1900
Groom Name: James CUMMINGS
Bride Name: Beatrice Mary E ELLISON
Church: Our Lady & Saint Patrick Roman Catholic Church
Parish: Ballymoney
Civil District: Ballymoney
County: Antrim

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Re: Cummings Of Ballycarton.
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 21:24 BST (UK) »
Gortinamina Thanks once again for all this. I will have to check out my records again.   But it is very very interesting & raises the possibility that his first wife must have died & he remarried. There is a gap of 25 years between them. But he was a Pork Cutter so that is probably him. But I still can't fathom why my great granny put Chamberlain Street as her place of residence on the Marraige cert. She must have been staying with relations prior to the wedding.

Have you had any luck finding your Miss Mary Cummins marriage to Mr. Brooks yet?



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Re: Cummings Of Ballycarton.
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 21:55 BST (UK) »
No luck with marriage - it is not in the civil indexes - I reckon they were married 1854-1856.


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Re: Cummings Of Ballycarton.
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 22:16 BST (UK) »
Indeed they were probably married in the catholic church where civil registration did not apply until 1864. But in trying local catholic parish registers remember they are written in latin. so Could Mary Cummins have been entered as Maria in a parish register? Also could she have been known by another christian name.? I am known by my second christian name. So it may be worth a thought.

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Re: Cummings Of Ballycarton.
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 08 July 12 15:15 BST (UK) »
Hi, Re your post #358 and another where you suggest James Cummings may have married twice.

I have a hand drawn family tree from my late aunt Mae Campbell where she confirms that but does not list the name of his second wife. She mistakenly lists James Cummings as George Cumming ("had a bacon store in Ballymoney or Ballymena"). Is it possible that George was his middle name and he may have been known as George by his family? - two sons were named James and George.

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Denis Campbell (grandson of Patrick and Ann Elizabeth)

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Re: Cummings Of Ballycarton.
« Reply #51 on: Sunday 08 July 12 15:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Denis - James Cummings was the grandson of George Cummings so perhaps there was some confusion there.

For the first marriage to Elizabeth McDermott I have the following:

Children of JAMES CUMMINGS and ELIZABETH MCDERMOTT are:
   i.   SARAH JANE CUMMINGS, b. 18 Aug 1872, Derry City.
   ii.   ANN ELIZABETH CUMMINGS, b. 29 Jun 1874, Derry City; m. PATRICK CAMPBELL, 1899.
   iii.   ISABELLA KATHLEEN CUMMINGS, b. 18 Sep 1875, Derry City.
   iv.   JAMES ALEXANDER CUMMINGS, b. 10 Dec 1877, Co Antrim.
   v.   CHARLES EDWARD CUMMINGS, b. 13 Aug 1879, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.
   vi.   GEORGE CUMMINGS, b. Abt. 1885, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.
   vii.   DANIEL CUMMINGS, b. Abt. 1888, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.
   viii.   LEO CUMMINGS, b. Abt. 1890, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.

For the second marriage:

Children of JAMES CUMMINGS and BEATRICE ELLISON are:
   ix.   IRENE C CUMMINGS, b. Abt. 1902, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.
   x.   FRANCIS J CUMMINGS, b. Abt. 1903, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.
   xi.   MARY J CUMMINGS, b. Abt. 1906, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.
   xii.   ELIZABETH A CUMMINGS, b. Abt. 1908, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.
   xiii.   BRIDGET VERONICA CUMMINGS, b. Abt. 1911, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.
   xiv.   PATRICIA CUMMINGS, b. Abt. 1910, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.
   xv.   JAMES ALBERT CUMMINGS, b. Abt. 1912, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.
   xvi.   FREDERICK T CUMMINGS, b. 1901, Ballymoney, Co Antrim; d. 1901, Ballymoney, Co Antrim.

Please treat this with caution as some of these details need to be confirmed but they are based on census returns and civil index of BMD's.

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Re: Cummings Of Ballycarton.
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 12:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the info Gortinanima. It looks as if he is the same James - I previously had doubts about him judging from inconsistencies between the 1901 and 1911 censuses such as his age. Beatrice was said to be English or American. Mae says daughter Sarah went to the usa.
I've attached Mae's family tree and PAF 'Book' of James Cummings (not yet edited with your information).

Denis

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Re: Cummings Of Ballycarton.
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 12 July 12 10:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Denis - if you post one more time on RootsCaht then you will be allowed to use the Private Message [PM] service on RootsChat & you can send me the tree that way.