John McLean Beats & Agnes Budge - Virginia?

[Worthingbudge]

I was hoping I might be able to find out what became of one branch of my family.

John McLean Beats married Agnes Budge in May 1845 at Dundee, Scotland.  They then emigrated to the USA sometime after, I believe to Virginia as that was the name of their first child.  They then reverted to traditional family names and had: John, William, Agnes, Murray, Robert and I believe two others.  I'm not aware of their birth dates.

If anyone has any connection or knows any information, or can point me in the right direction - I would be very appreciative.

Many thanks ... Simon

[aghadowey]

IGI (www.familysearch.org) lists 7 children for John and Agnes, including a daughter names Virginia, but they were all born in Dundee, Scotland, not America and first child listed born 1838 which is earlier than the date you had for marriage: John (1838), Charles (1840), David (1845), Murray Threpland (1849), Virginia (1850), Agnes (1852), Robert (1854).
Think that you need to check Scottish census and vital records next to see if and when the family might have moved to America.

[Jacquie in Canada]

I found the family in  Monifieth, Angus on the 1851 Scotland census at Ancestry listed as Berrts. I couldn't find them at ScotlandsPeople under Beats or by just searching Be*. When I searched another name on the same page that entry came up in the search results but it said there was no image available. Here's the entry:

1851 census - Brook Street, Broughton Ferry, Angus

John M Bertts, head, 38, auctioneer, born Dundee, Forfarshire 
Agnes Bertts, wife, 34, born Edinburgh, Midlothian   
John Bertts, son, 13, born St.Vigeans, Richmond   
Charles Bertts, son, 10, born Dundee, Forfarshire   
George Bertts, son, 9, born Dundee, Forfarshire     
David Bertts, son, 5, born Dundee, Forfarshire     
William Bertts, son, 4, born Dundee, Forfarshire 
Marray I Bertts, son, 1, born Monifieth, Forfarshire   
Virginia Bertts, daughter, 3 Mo, born Monifieth, Forfarshire   

The family is at 30 Reform St, Dundee, Angus on the 1861 Scotland census. At Ancestry they are listed as Bealls but at ScotlandsPeople they are Beatts.

John M Beatts, head, 49, auctioneer & vatualor, born Dundee
Agnes Beatts, wife, 46, born Edinburgh
George W Beatts, son, 19, saddler, born Dundee, Forfarshire     
David Beatts, son, 15, clerk, born Dundee, Forfarshire     
William Beatts, son, 14, druggist, born Dundee, Forfarshire 
Murry T Beatts, son, 11, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Virginia Beatts, daughter, 10, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Agnes Beatts, daughter, 8, born Dundee, Forfarshire 
Robert Beatts, son, 6, born Dundee, Forfarshire

From the 1871 census, the family is at 31 Millars Wynd, Dundee, Angus:

John M Beatts, head, 58, auctioneer, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Agnes Beatts, wife, 54, born Edinburgh
David Beatts, son, 24, auctioneer's clerk, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Murray T Beatts, son, 21, engineer in steam sup, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Virginia Beatts, daughter, 20, music teacher, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Agnes Beatts, daughter, 18, government pupil teacher, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Robert Beatts, son, 16, chemist's apprentice, born Dundee, Forfarshire

On the 1881 census at 8 Forfar Road, Dundee, Angus:

John McLean Beatts, head, 68, auctioneer, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Agnes Beatts, daughter, 28, housekeeper, born Dundee, Forfarshire

I couldn't find John Beatts on the 1891 census but I did find a death for John McLean Beatts, 82, in 1893 in St. Andrews, Dundee at ScotlandsPeople. There is also a death registration for Agnes Budge Beatts, 65, who died in 1880 in St. Andrews, Dundee.

Jacquie

[Worthingbudge]

Well - that's a bit of a surprise! 

Many thanks aghadowey and Jacquie.  I must admit I hadn't looked for them in Scotland as a great aunt of mine had suggested they had moved to America.  That and Virginia being given as the first child, I'd put 2 and 2 together and seemingly made 5.

All seems to tally apart from the first children birth dates and their marriage.

Thank you again - I will investigate further!

Simon

[Dackota]

What a small world, John Mclean Beatts was my Great Great Great Great Grandfather.

The actual surname is not spelled Beats or Bertts, but Beatts, for some reason the name gets distorted in different censuses over the years.

Quote:
John McLean Beatts
William Beatts (John M Beatts son, though he wasnt a Druggist, he was a goldsmith & diamond cutter)
William Beatts (great great grandfather Died in WWI)
William Beatts (My great granftather)
William Beatts (Grandfather died in 1993) -One of his sons resides in US atm.
William Alan Beatts (My dad)
William Kevin Beatts (Me)

One of my family members has traced the Beatts family back to 1703 when they had occupancy of a house on the banks of the river Tay, in a village called GranTully near Avimore. This would have been J M Beatts ancestors. One of them named William Beatts, which you can see has become a dynasty in our family, myself being William Beatts IX (9th).
The Beatts family have several parts that have emmigrated to the US over the years, but some of us still remain in bonny Scotland :-)

[Worthingbudge]

Hi Dackota

Excellent to hear of your connection with John Mclean Beatts (I knew it was spelled double t - I just mistyped it!).

I'll PM you as soon as I get chance within the next few days.


Simon

[Dackota]

Looking forward to it Simon.

[zebadeee]

Hi there, I am an Australian descendant of John McLean Beatt's (Snr) sister Mary Beatts.  I have a lot in my private Ancestry.com family tree on the Beatts family.  We are distant cousins.  I would love to 'e-chat' with you.  Please contact me at ^(*)

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[zebadeee]

Hi there, I am an Australian descendant of John McLean Beatt's (Snr) sister Mary Beatts.  I have a lot in my private Ancestry.com family tree on the Beatts family.  We are distant cousins.  I would love to 'e-chat' with you.  Please contact me at ^(*)

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