Parish records look up if possible?Kingston-Upon-Hull, probably Holy Trinity?

[sarahcat]

Jill and Barbara,

Thanks so much for looking into this for me-is quite late in the evening so will look through your replies properly tomorrow.

I understand where you are coming from with the LDS records-there is clearly doubt when a record has not been extracted from a PR.

Have got John and Fanny on the 1841(living in London) and Fanny in the 1851....and actually their birth dates seem much earlier on the 1841....will look at that again.

Have also got the IGI for their daughter Elizabeth's christening and think I did originally try finding the marriage under the corresponding number....

Thanks again-your help is very much appreciated!
(As I said, am having one of those days, so hope to be more on the ball tomorrow!!)

Sarahcat

[Ecneps]

Have got John and Fanny on the 1841(living in London) and Fanny in the 1851....and actually their birth dates seem much earlier on the 1841....will look at that again.

Sarah, don't forget that in the 1841 census, adult ages were usually rounded down to the nearest 5 years, so not accurate for dating births

Barbara 

[clivealbert]

Hi, There are no entries for either Holy Trinity, Hull 1761-1791. Best wishes clive

[jillruss]

Sarahcat,

Presumably, on the 1841 census, they were both recorded as being born out of county? On the 1851, does Fanny give her birthplace as Hull?

Jill

[sarahcat]

Yes Jill, in the 1851 Fanny/Frances is recorded as born in Hull and is living with both her daughters: Elizabeth,her husband/children and Frances, single.

In the 1841 the whole family are recorded as born in Middlesex, but it is definitely them.The problem is that John and Frances are both recorded as born 1771 and 1776 respectively!!Know there can be errors on the census,but maybe they were actually born quite a bit earlier than LDS non IGI record says...so thanks for prompting me to look at that again!

Elizabeth was definitely born in Hull but her younger sister Frances was born in Middlesex. However, knew nothing about Samuel(thank you, Barbara)...perhaps he did not survive or was off doing his own thing by 1841. Will look into that.

Lots of food for thought then and also need to have a good look through the other Arnett info that you gave, Barbara....

Got to dash, but will be back later!
Sarahcat

[jillruss]

I checked the marriage at the Beverley RO this morning - and this particular submitted IGI is to be trusted!!

The marriage was there at Holy Trinity 8 March 1811
John Arnett otp, mariner & Fanny Goodhand of the same, widow. Witnesses were Samuel Arnett and --- Fisher (the first name was very hard to decipher - could have been Mary, Mark something like that).

Did you know Fanny was a widow? if not, that could help find her maiden name - if you can find her first marriage, of course.     Also, I hope the witness Samuel Arnett might point you in the right direction to find John's birth/baptism.

Good luck.

Jill

[sarahcat]

Hello Jill,

Thank you so much-you have been really helpful and it was extremely kind of you to do this look up  .

That is all so useful and will keep me busy for a while I should think!!(along with all the other info that has come up with this posting). I didn't know Fanny was a widow, so that's brilliant....

Many thanks again, and if I can help with any local look-ups please let me know...I don't live near Chichester(W.Sussex RO) but occasionally get to Lewes(E. Sussex RO) or could visit churches in Shoreham area of W.Sussex...

Best wishes,
Sarahcat

[jillruss]

You're very welcome, Sarahcat. I don't have any ancestors in Sussex - yet! but I'll keep your kind offer in mind should I come across any in the future.

I enjoy the 'hunt' for lost ancestors - a bit like puzzle solving I suppose. Just to prove it - I looked on the IGI for the baptism of a Samuel Arnett and there is one in 1780 in North Ferriby (then about 7 miles from Hull, now virtually part of 'greater' Hull). He was the son of John Arnett and had a brother John, baptised N Ferriby 1771. So the witness could have been John's brother, although that would have made John 40 years old when he married Fanny. 

I didn't have any luck at all looking for Fanny's earlier marriage to a Mr Goodhand! 

Jill

[sarahcat]

Wow, thanks once again! John Arnett's dob on the 1840 census is 1771! So North Ferriby could well be the place - brilliant! Perhaps John was 'married to the sea' before he met Fanny! He ended up as a 'Surgical Instrument Maker'!

It really is an irresistible challenge, isn't it, tracking down these ancestors?(Especially the ones that don't want to be found too easily) And it's the best feeling when you do bust a brick wall!

Will keep hunting for Fanny's Mr. Goodhand....

Thanks, Jill.

Sarahcat