McGarrigle- Convoy

[siberian tiger]

Trying to track down the birthplace of my Great Great Grandfather Daniel McGarrigle. Having tried all websites that I know about the only Daniel McGarrigle  I have came across was in Convoy around 1857, he married a lady by the name of Julia McColl, I believe they came over to Scotland around the 1870 mark. Would appreciate it if anyone a lot more experienced than myself could steer me in the right direction and give me a few pointers on the best way to try and find out this information.

Hugh

[aghadowey]

Welcome to Rootschat. Irish research isn't ever easy without knowing where your family came from so you may not be able to find any information but we'll certainly try to help you.

First of all, are you certain that your did Daniel McGarrigle married Julia McColl? (if not then you could be following the wrong person). It would be good if you could tell us what you know for certain about Daniel. For example, if you found him in Scottish census records you should have an approxiamate age for him. You've mentioned 'Convoy around 1857' so you could perhaps explain this reference as it might be an important clue to search for the McGarrigles in Ireland.

[siberian tiger]

Thanks Aghadowey for your reply, the information I have, has been taken from "Scotlands People". The 1881 census shows both my great great Grandparents Daniel McGarrigle and Julia McGarrigle (McColl) were both born in Ireland, their siblings are shown as being born in my hometown in Scotland, what I did notice however was that on the death certificate for Daniel McGarrigle, his name appeared to have been changed to Dennis he passed away in 1909 and his wife in 1914. I have got their birthdates to around 1840-1850 as their appears to be conflicting ages on certain documents I have traced. My other Great Great Grandparents on my mothers side appear to be as daunting as I cannot find them anywhere, they were both from Ireland also. I will take one step at a time, as

[mcghee67]

Hi,

There is a Daniel McGarrigle in the 1857-1864 griffiths valuation

McGarrigle Daniel  Townland of Magheracorran   Convoy

Kind Regards Jane

[mcghee67]

Here is the link to rootsweb

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/convoygv2.htm


You will hopefully find more imfo that attains to your family in Donegal,  this website is superb

Kind regards Jane

[aghadowey]

Not sure if Siberian Tiger had actually finished their post but if their Daniel McGarrigle was born 1840/1850 (estimated from Scottish records) then it's hardly likely that he was head of a household at the time of Griffith's Valuation in 1857.

More important would be trying to find a record of Daniel and Julia's marriage. I can't see any possibilites for their marriage in civil registrations but registration of Catholic marriages didn't start until 1864 in Ireland.

Before posting this I had a quick look at Scottish census records and found the family in Port Glasgow.
1881- Denis (45) wife Julia (35) eldest child James (18). Since James was born c1863 it is likely that the marriage, if in Ireland, won't show up in civil index.
1891- Denis (50) wife Julia (45)
1901- Dennis (63) wife Julia (62)

[Rafter]

Hi everyone,
     Some more information about Denis and Julia McGarrigle. They are my great-great-grandparents, and can be found in the 1861 census living in Port Glasgow:

     Denis McGERIGAL 24, Julia McGERIGAL 22, and Catherine 11months.

     All of their children were to be born in Port Glasgow:
Catherine-1860, James-1862, Mary Ann-1864, John-1866, Margaret-1868, Daniel-1870 and Jane-1874.
     The children can be found in the IGI, Batch No.C115741. The earlier records give their mother's name as Gila McCOUL, gradually changing to Janet McCOLL by 1874. Did Gila sound like Julia?
     Searching the IGI, this time Batch No.M115741 for Gila McCOUL we find that she married Dennis McGARRIGOL in Port Glasgow in 1859. So we should be able to see the marriage record at Scotland's People. This should give us the four parents of Dennis and Gila.
      In that area by the way, a Dennis (Denis) was sometimes known as 'Denny', which could be confused with 'Danny'.
     In 1880 Catherine McGARRIGLE married my great-grandfather George GEMMELL, the register names Catherine's parents as Denis and Janet McGARRIGLE (m.s.McCOLL).
Hope this helps.

Rafter

[derrylass]

The female Irish Christian name Sile often appears on early BMD records translated as Giley. This in turn became Julia, Sheila, Cecelia, Celia and Cicily

[Rafter]

Hi everyone,
     I had another look at the IGI's for Denis and Julia McGarrigle's children, and found that Jane's record (1874) names her parents as DANIEL McGarrigle and Janet McColl. All the others say Dennis or Denis.

Rafter