Jennifer and jane
Thank you both so much
I do have the census print out for 1851 I need to find them in 1841, or john in 1861, 1871
I do have details of all the family from 1861 onwards exept john and it is he that i need most, all the children apart from john were born is st Helena, off the coast of south Africa,their records do not list mothers maiden name and this is what i need to find out, in order to go further back
anything you can find out would be so much appreciated
kind regards
lynn