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finding the ship from Lancashire
« on: Tuesday 14 April 09 18:00 BST (UK) »
 I am having great difficulty with one aspect of my ancestors coming to Canada.
 My gr. grandmother Nancy Wroe/Roe and baby Caleb came on the ss Polynesian in 1880. Gr GrandfatherThomas W. was not on the ship's list so I figured he came in 1879 in order to get the land grants that were offered. Now I find out that his parents  Caleb and Alice Wroe/Roe also came here. I can't find them anywhere but see that Caleb sr. returned to Lancashire from Ontario in June 1900. No Alice.
Is anyone able to see ship's lists from 1879 to Quebec with destination as Gravenhurst, Ontario, Canada? I'm hoping that The four people will be there. I would think that maybe they took the same ship. maybe.    Mykin
Co.Antrim- Boomer (Bulmer), Partridge, Houston, Alderdice,
Co. Down- Leckey (lackey etc), Taylor,

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Re: finding the ship from Lancashire
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 21:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Mykin

Welcome to Rootschat!  You'll get loads of help on here.  I have.  Enjoy!

Even so, that's a tough one.  Have you tried the passenger lists on
findmypast.com

In theory, all passenger lists for leaving Britain (from 1868?), should be on there.  Not sure if it's complet yet, though.

If the entry isn't there, it's difficult.  I know we've found a few people who were missing from earlier lists, but we have some missing.

Best wishes

Emms
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
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Re: finding the ship from Lancashire
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 21:13 BST (UK) »
Hi, sorry, only from 1890 given on here, but you might get some entries as far as I can tell.  Searching is free and you do get dates.

Use the "Emigration" link at the top.

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Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas

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Re: finding the ship from Lancashire
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 April 09 17:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks emms,
 yes I have tried findmypast and a couple of others but no luck. This time period seems to be hard to find.
A person in England got me  a couple of the answers but just said that they went on to a pay site and got some onfo then went on to collectionscanada.ca  That place is in Ottawa and you can view the records. A 12 hour train ride return for me.
So hope that someone has access to something that will help me.
Is there a ship's list on ancestry.ca?
Co.Antrim- Boomer (Bulmer), Partridge, Houston, Alderdice,
Co. Down- Leckey (lackey etc), Taylor,


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Re: finding the ship from Lancashire
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 April 09 18:42 BST (UK) »
Hi

There are quite a large group of passenger databases on ancestry.com but most of us if we have subscription for a while, just have the uk version.  More is being added to that though.  Some libraries have an edition with mpre international data on t.

I'll have another look at ancestry though.

Best wishes

Emmshough
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas

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Re: finding the ship from Lancashire
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 April 09 18:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Again"!

Just checked.

Sorry. the lisls I was thinking of were for this countries incoming lists.

Ancestry have just added Canadian passenger lists for 1865 - 1935. 

I put Wroe, 1879 and got 27 results, including a Thomas, but of course when I tried to look at the details it invited me to pay for the International version.  Of course we don't even know if the result was exactly correct. 

You might find someone on here in Canada who has it, or visiting a library which has it.  Looks as if he may well have gone though.

It might be worth trying an Emigration board on Rootschat?

Sorry, that's the best I can do.

Best wishes

Emms

PS I think you can probably search for free, then you'd know exactly what's available


Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas

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Re: finding the ship from Lancashire
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 April 09 18:57 BST (UK) »
PS The only information given is Victoria, British Colombia as the port, though not necessarily final destination, and he was the only Wroe going there.

Emms


PPS

The above only had 1.5 stars relevance.  There were about a dozen Thomas Roe's with three stars relevance, so I think you need a person or establishment with unlimited access to details.

I hope you find him.

Best wishes

Emms
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas

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Re: finding the ship from Lancashire
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 April 09 17:27 BST (UK) »
CollectionsCanada has scans of the passenger lists 1865-1922 online for free. Not indexed though, so you will probably end up with tired eyes. Also, don't assume that just because they ended up in Quebec that that was their point of disembarkation. They might have gone overland from Halifax, especially in winter.

I start at www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger

My people were post 1900, and the detail improves as you get later.

Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: finding the ship from Lancashire
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 April 09 12:45 BST (UK) »
PS The only information given is Victoria, British Colombia as the port, though not necessarily final destination, and he was the only Wroe going there.

Emms


PPS

The above only had 1.5 stars relevance.  There were about a dozen Thomas Roe's with three stars relevance, so I think you need a person or establishment with unlimited access to details.

I hope you find him.

Best wishes

Emms



Thank you emms for your help. It is a 12 hr. train trip to Ottawa, return, to see the documents but I might just have to go there. Wouldn't it be nice to have a good friend in all the cities that you need research done?
Co.Antrim- Boomer (Bulmer), Partridge, Houston, Alderdice,
Co. Down- Leckey (lackey etc), Taylor,