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JOHN BARCLAY BIRTH
« on: Tuesday 14 April 09 01:38 BST (UK) »
John Barclay birth is apx. 1943-1944.  I have searched off and on for several years trying to find a birth certificate with no luck.  The information I have is that he was born in Northumberland, England according to the 1901 census.  His marriage certificate (Nov 13, 1865 to Hannah Rochester) list his father as George Barclay.  Both John and George were Mariners.  I haven't been able find him on other censuses.

Any help is most appreciated.

NORTHUMBERLAND, ENGLAND, BANFFSHIRE, SCOTLAND
ANDERSON, BARCLAY, BRODIE, BRUCE, CAMPBELL, CHRYSTIE, CLARK, CLERK, DONALDSON, DOWNIE, DUTHIE,FINDLAY, FLETT, GARDEN, GEDDES, GIFORD, GRANT, HANNING,HAY, HENDERSON, HENDRY, HESBON, HUY(HOWIE), IMLACH, INNES, MAIR, McBAY, McKENZIE, MILTON, OGILVIE, PATERSON, PETERKIN, PIRIE, PROTT, ROCHESTER, RUNCIE, SAMUELS, SCLATER, SLATER, SINCLAIR, SKINNER, SMITH, STEWART,  STUART, THAIN,  SUTHERLAND,VEAL, WATSON, WHITFIELD, WILSIE,  WILSON, WOOD, YOUNG

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Re: JOHN BARCLAY BIRTH
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 03:07 BST (UK) »
Welcome,

Would you please relate the 1901 census HOUSEHOLD in full? (include refs).
I can't see anyone with those details. i can see one nearly-candidate in Heaton, but he's 58y and not a mariner...

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Re: JOHN BARCLAY BIRTH
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 03:26 BST (UK) »
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Re: JOHN BARCLAY BIRTH
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 03:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Pauline,
Thank you for such a quick response, I didn't expect one so fast.

Yes this is the John Barclay family I am related to.  I was going to send you a copy of the marriage certificate but could not figure out how to attach it to this e-mail.
NORTHUMBERLAND, ENGLAND, BANFFSHIRE, SCOTLAND
ANDERSON, BARCLAY, BRODIE, BRUCE, CAMPBELL, CHRYSTIE, CLARK, CLERK, DONALDSON, DOWNIE, DUTHIE,FINDLAY, FLETT, GARDEN, GEDDES, GIFORD, GRANT, HANNING,HAY, HENDERSON, HENDRY, HESBON, HUY(HOWIE), IMLACH, INNES, MAIR, McBAY, McKENZIE, MILTON, OGILVIE, PATERSON, PETERKIN, PIRIE, PROTT, ROCHESTER, RUNCIE, SAMUELS, SCLATER, SLATER, SINCLAIR, SKINNER, SMITH, STEWART,  STUART, THAIN,  SUTHERLAND,VEAL, WATSON, WHITFIELD, WILSIE,  WILSON, WOOD, YOUNG

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Re: JOHN BARCLAY BIRTH
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 03:47 BST (UK) »
Is the 1865 mariage 100% the correct one? (Have you a child's birth cert to confirm)

what names witnessed?
What residence/address was given?
What explicitly were the occupations?

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Re: JOHN BARCLAY BIRTH
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 03:59 BST (UK) »
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Re: JOHN BARCLAY BIRTH
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 04:24 BST (UK) »
 Could this be them :), George is indexed as 69 but image appears to be 39

1851

24 Shipskey Quay
Nth Shields, Tynemouth               HO107/2409/415/5

George BARCLAY, head, mar , 34, seaman, Leith , Scotland
Jane,  wife, 37, Wenlaton, Durham
Eleanor, daughter, 13, scholar, Nth Shields
George, son, 9, Tynemouth
JOHN, son, 5, Nth Shields
Elizabeth Richardson, 73, widow pauper, aunt, Wenlaton Durham
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Re: JOHN BARCLAY BIRTH
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 04:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks again.  The John and Hannah Berkley could very well be them since their 1st child, Hannah, wasn't born until 1872. 

Trish, I've seen this entry, but wasn't sure if it is him and parents.  This is the only one that is close to being Johns parents.

I'll get back tomorrow. It's bedtime here.

Terry Ellen
NORTHUMBERLAND, ENGLAND, BANFFSHIRE, SCOTLAND
ANDERSON, BARCLAY, BRODIE, BRUCE, CAMPBELL, CHRYSTIE, CLARK, CLERK, DONALDSON, DOWNIE, DUTHIE,FINDLAY, FLETT, GARDEN, GEDDES, GIFORD, GRANT, HANNING,HAY, HENDERSON, HENDRY, HESBON, HUY(HOWIE), IMLACH, INNES, MAIR, McBAY, McKENZIE, MILTON, OGILVIE, PATERSON, PETERKIN, PIRIE, PROTT, ROCHESTER, RUNCIE, SAMUELS, SCLATER, SLATER, SINCLAIR, SKINNER, SMITH, STEWART,  STUART, THAIN,  SUTHERLAND,VEAL, WATSON, WHITFIELD, WILSIE,  WILSON, WOOD, YOUNG

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Re: JOHN BARCLAY BIRTH
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 04:45 BST (UK) »
I have a CERTIFIED COPY OF AN ENTRY OF MARRIAGE FROM THE GENERAL REGISTER OFFICE, application number: COL877400 that I purchased Jan. 27, 2007.

The witnesses: William Robinson and Jane Waugh in the Parish Church in Tynemouth.  Date of Marriage: Nov. 13 1865. John was 22 years old, rank/profession: Mariner.  Fathers listed:  George Barclay, Mariner and George Rochester, Mariner.
Is all it said in regards to addresses on this marriage certificate was "Residence at the time of Marriage:  This Parish".  Richard Rudd, ?, signed the marriage certificate.

He had 7 children: John, Edith, Charles, Hannah, Elizabeth, George and Mark.

His Entry of Death, states he was a Diver which is also true.  His son John Jr. was present at his death.  His address at his death is given as 7th Avenue, Newcastle.  He died Nov 17, 1903 at the age of 59.
I do not have a birth record for John Barclay, born about 1843-1844.  The date of birth is what I have gotten from census and death record.
NORTHUMBERLAND, ENGLAND, BANFFSHIRE, SCOTLAND
ANDERSON, BARCLAY, BRODIE, BRUCE, CAMPBELL, CHRYSTIE, CLARK, CLERK, DONALDSON, DOWNIE, DUTHIE,FINDLAY, FLETT, GARDEN, GEDDES, GIFORD, GRANT, HANNING,HAY, HENDERSON, HENDRY, HESBON, HUY(HOWIE), IMLACH, INNES, MAIR, McBAY, McKENZIE, MILTON, OGILVIE, PATERSON, PETERKIN, PIRIE, PROTT, ROCHESTER, RUNCIE, SAMUELS, SCLATER, SLATER, SINCLAIR, SKINNER, SMITH, STEWART,  STUART, THAIN,  SUTHERLAND,VEAL, WATSON, WHITFIELD, WILSIE,  WILSON, WOOD, YOUNG
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