JOHN BARCLAY BIRTH

[trish1120]

I will keep looking but think George and John could be away at sea 1861/1871 census

Have found Eleanor and George 1861, will post in case this is your family;

1861
Nth Shields, NBL
RG9/3840/86/22

William BICKFORD 26
Eleanor ,23
Hannah, 4
Eleanor, 1
George BARCLAY, 18, brother-in-law, born Nth Shields

[trish1120]

Could he be reg. under BERKLEY

When looking thru entries seems to be name interchangable esp with Scottish connections.

BERKLEY, John
Newcastle T
June 1844
25 329

You could purchase with provisio that father is George

Trish

[Michael Dixon]

 If Charles Octavious Barclay ( birth registered in Sept Qtr of 1887 @ Tynemouth Reg District) was child of John/Hannah, it implies that the couple had at least eight, rather than seven children.

So do you now have John the diver/mariner on all the censuses from 1851-1901 ?

Michael Dixon

[terrryer1]

Thanks Michael, you're right, I did forget Charles.  I am still trying to find a birth certificate for John Barclay.  Any suggestions?

[Michael Dixon]

 But you included Charles in the list of 7 children..... anyway.....

If John B.....   was born in North Shields, then his birth would have been registered with/within the Tynemouth Registration District.

There is a birth registration for John BERKELEY.. @ Tynemouth Dec Qtr 1844. I think this is a good candidate for John.

Today the civil registration for this area is covered by North Tyneside Register Office ( Maritime Chambers, 1 Howard St, North Shields, NE30 1LZ, tel 0191-2006164, email ...   registrars@northtyneside.gov.uk  ...   )

Their web site shows a George Barclay marrying Jane Bainbridge within Tynemouth Reg District in 1841.

The on-line Durham " Bishop Transcripts" has Tynemouth Parish Church records up to 1847 ( In the relevant era, and area, Anglicans would have used Tynemouth Parish Church). But searching is by date, not alphabetically by surname).


 
The PRO HQ ref number for the birth registration is Volume 25  ( London staff copied  BMD info from Northumberland, Cumberland and Westmorland  into volume 25) on page 434.    If you choose to obtain cert from North Tyneside be aware that that "London" reference number will have no relevance to North Tyneside staff.. " We don't go by those London numbers ! " But maybe now as local ROs put their registrations on line, they are tying them in with GRO references.


And take Trish's advice to make stipulations with you cert purchase ( his father = George- a mariner )


Michael Dixon

[Michael Dixon]

 While looking through Tynemouth Parish baptisms I saw this

Baptism 15 Aug 1841 Elizabeth ( born 27 July 1841) dtr of George, Master Mariner,  and Hannah Rochester, of Church Way.

This Elizabeth is likely to be Hannah Barclay's sister.

Interesting to note George Rochester was a MM. He is likely to figure in a handy book called " Dictionary of Tyne Sailing Ships, 1820-1920" by Richard Keys. It will list and describe the ships he captained, and maybe owned or part-owned. Unless he juiced up his status, as some mariners did ?

I can normally access this book in the Local Studies section of Newcastle Library- but this temporarily closed until June.


Michael Dixon

[Michael Dixon]

 The ROCHESTER Master Mariners.......( John James Joseph and " G " )

Narova           18 Dec 1828- 17 Julu 1829 ( John)
British Queen 20 Apr 1830- 25 Apr 1833   (James)
Urania              11 Nov 1832- 5 Apr 1845    (Joseph)
Eagle                 4 Apr 1840- 5 Nov 1840  ( G )
Margaret          23 Nov 1840- 6 Oct 1841  (G )
Xenophon         24 Sep 1842                     ( G )
Renovation      3 Dec 1852                         (G )

 A snippet about the Renovation....   


 *Part of the "Guano Rush" ( google it )
 * Voyage Limerick to Quebec, mate Robert Simpson.
 * During 1854, the Renovation, commanded by Captain Rochester survived a stormy passage from St John, New Brunswick to the Tyne.


Source as my previous posting.

Michael Dixon

[edenseyes]

Hi there, Hannah Rochester Barclay (Whitfield) was my great-great grandmother. I'm sitting here with my grandmother who knows the history of Hannah Barclay daughter of Captain John Barclay Master Mariner and Hannah Rochester Barclay.

Elizabeth was her sister and she died around the age of 19-21 years of spinal meningitis. Her sister said she had bright red hair.  Charles Octavious Barclay immigrated to Austrailia, married, had 3 children, and died in World War I. John, Marc, and Hannah all immigrated to Canada.

I have more details concerning this family and some pictures of Charles Octavious, Hannah, John, Marc (and their wives) as well as one of John Barclay Sr. in his diving suit.  Hope this helps.

P.S. Just out of curiousity what is your connection to this family?

[terrryer1]

Hi there back at you,  Yes I'm related and to you apparently.

This is how I am related to the Barclay family.  Hannah Rochester Barclay was my Great Aunt. Her sister Edith Barclay was my Grandmother.

I did not have the privilege to know any of my relatives. My grandmother, Edith Barclay died when my Mom was 4 years old in Edinburgh, Scotland and my Grandfather, George Bruce Wood immigrated to Victoria, BC, then to Seattle, Washington.

Who is your grandmother and what is your name and family members?  I got into genealogy because I never new any of my relatives.

I can send some pictures of Mom and family if you wish.
Also, I can be reached at:  terryer@centurytel.net.  I live in Kettle Falls, Washington, near the Canadian border.

I will be anxiously awaiting to hear from you.  I want to know my relatives.