Henry William Bailey c1878

[Vea]

Iam wondering if anyone can help with tracing Henry William Bailey's DOB.  This gentleman was my grandfather, he died in 1949 and I have the death certificate for him.  He married my Grandmother Beatrice Maude Mary Earing (widow) in 1915 and I have the marriage certificate for that.  Henry's father is noted as being Harry Bailey Gasworks foreman on the marriage certificate.

I know he served in the war,  I have photos of him in uniform and I am told that the cap badge is that of the 20th Hussars, he also served with the labour corp as I have engraved shells with his name on them.  Family legend also has it that he served at Buckingham Palace as a guard the ones that wear the bearskin hats, but alas I can find nothing to substantiate any of this.  I think the records for his war service may have been destroyed, also with a name like Henry William Bailey it is not easy without a DOB.  If anyone has any ideas on where else I an go for this info would be greatly appreciated.  Without his DOB I cant go any further back.

I know they lived at 66 Arpley Road Penge but not until after the 1911 census.

hoping someone can help

Vea
Western AUstralia

[maidmarion]

Hiya Vea,
How old was your Grandfather when he died? Also was his age on his marriage cert?

Have you found him on any census returns?

All this information will help to assist in the search

MODIFIED
I have just noticed dob.c 1878 in subject title doh! Sorry

maidmarion

[amber39]

I have found a possible birth for you

Henry William Bailey  b1878(4)   Gravesend  Kent  2a 451.
This is assuming your Baileys lived in Kent.

1881 Census  Northfleet Kent
30 The Creek.
John Bailey  age 39  Lab.Cement  b. Hammersmith
Mary Ann  age 37 (wife)   b.Co. Limerick Ireland
Sarah Ann  age 16   b .Northfleet
John E.  age 13
Ada H.  age 10
Elizabeth  age 8
Charles  age 6
HENRY  age 3
Joseph  age 1

I dont know if this is of any help

Regards  Amber39

[Vea]

Hi Amber

Henry's father is noted as Harry on the marriage cert so probably not my Henry, alas

Vea

[Vea]

maidmarion Hi

I haven't found Henry reliably on any census returns.  There is one that lived in Beckenham which could be a match as they lived in Penge, but at the time they met they were living in Darfield Road Brockley- must have moved to Penge soon after, apparently Henry's father Harry lived near by in Penge.  I think he may have had a sister Fanny and or Jane. very lose info I know and such a common name proving very difficult


vea

[maidmarion]

What about this one in 1891
RG12/593, f.3, p.1
2 Green Ln, Croyden
Henry Bailey H mar 49 no occupation, b.Brighton, Sussex
Fanny "  mar 43 b.Dorking, Surrey
Henry W " 19 porter b.Camberwell, London
George " sch 5 b.Croyden, Surrey

Harry is pet name for Henry and a member of the family named Fanny, although Henry's DOB is a few  years out 

[maidmarion]

I like this one more
RG13/288, F.74, P.42
1901 London, Bethnal Green South
Henry E Bailey H mar 46 upholstorers trimming maker b.Finsbury, Essex
Jane " wife 47 B.Hackney, "
Henry W " 23 picture frame packer b.Whitechapel, "
Robert W " 20 " " fitter b.Hackney
Alfred J " 19 scullery man b."
Emily E " 14 hat stand maker b."
Arthur G " 10 b.Bethnal Green
William A " 5 B." "

[maidmarion]

1881 South Hackney, London
RG11/312, f.91, p.30
26 North St
Henry Edward Bailey 26 trimming in upholstry b.Finsbury, Middlesex
Jane " wife 27 trimming maker b.Bethnal Green, "
Henry W " son 3 B.Whitechapel, "
Edward C " 3 b.Mile End, "
Edward Hoole father in law wid 73 tailor b.St Pancras

I'm afraid I don't know London and I don't have any experience of researching there either.

Hoping that this is him in 1881 and 1901, it has given you some more facts to assist a search in 1911.