Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.

[philrob]

Greetings to you all, 
I have an ELEANOR BRADLEY born approximately 1849 to William and Lucy Bradleys of Worcester. Eleanor married JAMES ANDERSEN (of Denmark) in 1865 and had several children. Her daughter LUCY CAROLINE ANDERSON (born in Liverpool in 1873) later married ROBERT MATTHEW ROBERTSON in Liverpool in 1897.
Lucy's siblings icluded Edron (Edwin), Charles, George, James and Mary.

I would like to find out more about the Bradley(s) side of the family if there is any connection with any of your family trees.

Best Regards from Western Australia

Philrob

[Mum44]

Hello Philrob 

I'm not connected to this family, but I just did a look-up for them.

In 1881 Eleanor says she was born 1839 in Shipston on Stour, Worcestershire.

I have found an Elenor Bradley b. 1839 with her family in both 1841 census and 1851,  but her parents are Edwin and Lucy, not William and Lucy 

Is this the right person do you think, or should I look again?

Where did the name of Eleanor's father come from ?

[jim1212]

Births Mar qtr. 1839.
Bradley Elenor. Shipston-on-Stour.    11. 370.

[Mum44]

Hello Jim  -  I found that too, but I'm a bit confused by Phil saying her father was William   

The family in 1881 census - which includes Lucy Caroline b. 1873 - is obviously the right one from that end - James born Denmark et al - but the information doesn't match at the 1841/1851 end   

There is am IGI bap for an Ellen Bradley in Shipston in 1849  -  the year Phil gave for Elenor's birth -  but the parents of that Ellen were George and Sarah 

Think I'll wait til Phil comes back and confirms -  date of birth she gives on the census is 1839  -  Shipston is same - Lucy as mother - it's just William as father which doesn't tick the box 

[jim1212]

Hi Mum44,

Some one as got what looks like this Eleanor on the Pedigree Resource File, Individual Record on Familysearch.org. born 1839, but with ADRAM Bradley as father and Lucy as mother.

Jim

[Mum44]

He is named as Adram on the 1851 and Edwin in 1841  -   

The surname in 1841 is Bradly without the E 

In 1861 Lucy is a widow.  To make things more complicated, there is no death reg. Shipston between 1851 and 1861 for either an Edwin or an Adram   

[philrob]

Dear Mum 44 and Jim 1212,
I am astonished that I have received such a fast reply (just over one hour!) to my first posting on this forum - thank you both very much.
My info re William came from a family member who had completed an investigation into the family history several years ago. I do believe that most of that searching was done by word of mouth so there are probably some holes in the findings. I have to say that I do not have definite proof of Eleanor's parents being William and Lucy.

What I have found particularly interesting is that Mum44 has used both the names for the parents as being Edwin and Lucy which appear in the next generation. This seems to be without checking probably more likely to be correct.

Thank you both for your interest and thought provoking answers.

Best Regards,

Philrob from Western Australia

[Mum44]

Phil  - hi

First - Do you have the census records for Eleanor ?  If not would you like them ?

Second - it would seem to be a good idea to obtain something definite by way of documentation for Eleanor's family background, and I suggest that her marriage certificate would be the most useful at this point;  it will show her father's name 

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I think her father's name is Edron, both christenings are extracted records on the IGI,

Edron BRADLEY
Christening:  25 JAN 1788   Shipston-On-Stour, Worcester
Father:  Daniel BRADLEY
Mother:  Betty

OR

Edson BRADLEY
Christening:  About 18 JUL 1788   Shipston-On-Stour, Worcester
Father:  Edson BRADLEY
Mother:  Elizabeth



Edron BRADLY
Spouse:  Lucy BRADLY
Marriage:  24 MAY 1824   Shipston-On-Stour, Worcester
 
 
Eleanor BRADLEY
Age: 26
Father's Name: Edron BRADLEY
Spouse: James ANDERSON
Age: 28
Father's Name: Nelson ANDERSON
Marriage : 12 Oct 1865,  Edge Hill, Lancashire


Looking at the 1871 & 1881 census for Eleanor ANDERSON it looks like she named her eldest son after her father,

Birth
Edron ANDERSON    Sep Q 1866    West Derby    8b  512


Regards
Daisy