Peter William Downes FORBES

[swallowtail]

 :)I am looking for any descendants of Peter Forbes who arrived in Australia on board Royal Dane in 29th April 1874 he died in 24 June 1887 in NSW and is buried in Rosewood cemetery.

I have a lot of information going back to 1730 of the Forbes and Stewarts families.

Please contact me.

Swallowtail

[Siouxsie]

Dear Swallowtail,
Is this the death you are talking about? Taken from NSW BDM
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

registration number:1004
Date: 1887     
Name:FORBES      PETER W W     
Father:JOHN A     
Mother: MARY     
Place: SYDNEY 

If so, there are several births listed to a Peter WW Forbes on the same site.

Cheers
Susie

[swallowtail]

Hi Susie,

Yes that is correct, I have a copy of his death certificate, he is the eldest brother of my GGGrandfather Mackenzie Alexander Forbes, are you related to Peter?
I know there was a Valentine Forbes but the trail in Australia runs out for me there.

I hope you are,

Swallowtail 

[Siouxsie]

Dear Swallowtail,
Sorry, I am not related........but going by the number of children listed to him, I am sure there will be relatives still around!

As he died in Sydney, he would have been buried in the Rookwood Cemetery and I have located his grave in the Independent Section
Presbyterian     Section: 6A    Grave Number: 0001965   Name: FORBES    PETER WILLIAM D     Date of Burial: 26 Jun 1887

There are Rootschatters who will take a photo of the grave if you put up a new post asking for "Photos at Rookwood" and give them this information.

I am not sure if Valentine is correct as he was born some years after Peter died (if this is the correct Peter)

Registration Number:881
Date:1893     
Name:  FORBES      VALENTINE C     
Father: PETER W M     
Mother:CHRISTINA     
Place: SYDNEY 

If you go to the NSW BDM site http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm
and select births with Forbes as the surname and Peter as the father's name, lots of children come up for Peter and Christina, but some of them are listed as being born after Peter dies.

If Valentine is related, his death record is
Registration Number:20429
Date:1957     
Name: FORBES      VALENTINE CAMERON     
Father:PETER WILLIAM M     
Mother:CHRISTINA     
Place:NEWTOWN

Valentine also fought in WW1 and his service records are digitised. You can view them by going to http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

Use the Search now as a guest user option, the enter Valentine Forbes and his record will be displayed.

Hope this helps.........but I am confused by the dates  for Valentine's birth well after Peter's death.

Cheers
Susie

[swallowtail]

Hi Susie,
Happy Easter to you, Thank you for the information, I am sorry I am confusing you Valentine is the Grandson of Peter WD Forbes his father was Peter William Minshaw Forbes so the entry you have is correct in fact there were other siblings
Peter Donald born1879 died 1879
William Julian born 1880 died 1940
George T born 1884
Samuel W born 1886
Amelia 1882
Isabel 1890
Their mother being Christina Cameron
The Children of Peter WD and Amelia who were born in the UK
James Samuel d 1893
Hannah Elizabeth d 1851
Peter WM d1928
William Joseph
Mary Amelia
Hannah Rachel
There may have been more children born, but as you know there is no census for that time,
Thank you for the information on Valetine WW1 record.
Rather sad really Peter and Mackenzie where the only two to survive and they lived a world apart and from what I have learn were estranged.

So I will keep my fingers crossed that there is someone else looking for the Forbes Family.

Swallowtail

[cando]

Hi

Had a quick look at your family details posted above and hope you find the following few snippets of data useful.

I note a William Joseph Minshaw FORBES on the Queensland electoral rolls from 1903 to 1925.  His occupation was butcher.  Do you think he may be of yours?  The name Minshaw is  most unusual.

FORBES William Joseph Minshaw was buried in the Toowong Cemetery   on the 19 Apr 1932  Aged 79 years

In the same grave is his wife Martha FORBES who died on 12 Nov 1906 aged 61 years.

Marriage Queensland
1875/C160   
FORBES   William Joseph Minshaw   
BARRETT Martha

There are five births to this couple on
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m


You mention that Christina CAMERON was the wife of Peter William Minshaw FORBES however this marriage reg shows his wife to be Sarah CAMERON and the birth indexes have her as Christina.  Perhaps she was Sarah Christina.

1256/1877     
FORBES  Peter  William M     
CAMERON  Sarah
District Sydney 

James Samuel FORBES son of Peter WD and Amelia - you have a death of 1893 however there is this death in NSW

8242/1931     
FORBES   James S    
Father Peter W D      Mother Amelia    
District Glebe

Another death
22338/1936     
SCURR  Mary Amelia    
Father Peter William D      Mother Amelia Reed   
District Newtown

This marriage may be Hannah Rachel
429/1878     
CAVILL  Francis Walter   
FORBES  Hannah R     
District Sydney

Death of a child in 1800 and there is another in 1879 but I detail this one as it is the same year as the death of Ann R CAVILL possibly Hannah R.

Deaths
1837/1880     
CAVILL  Walter H
Father Francis W   Mother Hannah R    
District Sydney 

1643/1880     
CAVILL     Ann R     
Father  Peter      Died Surry Hills     
District Sydney

and husband's 2nd marriage
699/1883     
CAVILL     Francis W
MORGAN  Elizabeth Jane
District Sydney

Enough for you to sort through
   
Cheers
Cando

[swallowtail]

Hi Cando,
Thank you so much for information it will certainly help me build the tree in Australia.

Swallowtail 

[cando]

Do you wish me to search further?

Cheers
Cand

[BatUser]

Dear Swallowtail

I am a descendant of Perter William Downs Forbes via his son Peter William Minshaw Forbes 1850-1928
I have P W D Forbes was burried on 26 June 1887 in the Presbyterian section at Rookwood Cementry Sydney.

What I have is Peter William Down Forbes b1824 Surry England
father Alexander Forbes mother Mary Brown

He Married Amelia Reed Windsor 27 Sep 1846 Horton Church of England London

They had 5 children
James S Forbes 1848, Peter William Minshaw Forbes 1850, William J Forbes 1853, Mary Forbes 1855, Amelia Forbes 1859.

Peter William Minshaw Forbes married 22 Dec 1877 to Christina Cameron 1857-1930 St Andrews Cathedral church Sydney
They had 8 children

Peter Donald Forbes 1879-1925, William Julian Forbes 1880-1940, Amelia Christina Forbes 1882-1946 , George Telford Forbes 1884, Samuel W Forbes 1886, Isabel Forbes 1890, Roy Forbes 1891
Valentine Cameron Forbes 1893.
I am a descendant  of Amelia Christina Forbes

I would be happy to have any information you are willing to share and will add more info if you wish.
Regards from Australia
I joined up to answer your question and I am not sure how all this works so I hope this is OK
BatUser