Oxford,Canterbury

[Trees]

I think the death for Ann ALLEN 18 Aug 1908 age 77 (from BDM NZ) looks a better one for Ann nee CANNING she was bapt Duns tew 4 Sep 1831
I am most impressed with all your help many many thanks
trees

[Eyesee]

Oxford Cemetery MIs

120
Joseph ALLEN 1864-1945, and his wife Alice Lillian 1883-1961. And their dau Audrey Gladys ALLEN 1910-1965

236
Frederick Adolphus WATERMAN d 15 Oct 1905 a 56, and his wife Laura d 28 Sept 1934 a 76, and their youngest son Archie, killed in France 21 Oct 1917 a 24

James and Ann not buried at Oxford

Ian C

[Trees]

Many thanks Ian,
I now know that Frederick Adolphus and laura married in the baptist chapel just 6 months before James ALLEN died. Does anyone know if there is a Baptist burial ground in or near Oxford?
Trees

[Wayboy]

Hi Trees

Headstone transcription from the Oxford Cemetery

In Loving Memory of Joseph ALLEN 1864-945. Also his loved wife Alice Lilian 1883-1961. Also their loving daughter Audrey Gladys ALLEN 1910- 1965.

Other information
Alice Lilian ALLEN nee HENDERSON age 81.   Area 2  Row 007 Plot 018.

Audrey Lilian d 1965 age 65. A 2, R 007, Plt 19A

Alice Lilian  d 1961 age 78. A 2, R 007, Plt 19.

Also h/s

Farewell. ILMO Frederick Adolphus BHO Laura WATERMAN who departed this life 15 October 1905 aged 56 years. "Not hushed the pleasent song that used to greet our ear, but mid angle throng, sounding more Sweet and clear." Also Laura BWO above died 28 September 1934 aged 76. " Peace perfect peace." Also Archie, youngest son of above, killed in France 21 October 1917 aged 24 years. Fondly remembered.

Other information

Laura WATERMAN nee ALLEN.   A4,  R 005,  Plt 01.

Also found
h/s
ILMO Eunice DBW of Horace Walter WATERMAN at rest 3 December 1968 aged 83 years. Also Horace Walter DBH of above at rest 9 February 1970 aged 85 years.

From the Oxford Baptist Burial Register

Horace Rtd Farmer
Place of birth Oxford
DD 9 Feb 1970
BD 11 Feb 1970
Baptist
NoK Rollins WATERMAN (son)
Spouse Eunice WALTER nee MARKHAM
Parents Frederick & Lora WATERMAN nee ALLEN


Eunice
Born Sefton (North Canterbury NZ)
Baptist
Spouse Horace Walter WATERMAN
Parents
Alfred & Clontina MARKHAM nee WEEBER.

Hope this is a help.

Regards  Wayne

[Trees]

Wayne this is  great I can't thank you enough. I just wonder where James and Ann ALLEN, Laura's parents were buried  It looks like Frederick Adolphus had been brought up in the Baptist faith I know James and Ann had all their children Baptised Anglican possibly because the family smithy wasconveniently opposite the Church in Steeple Barton.
So another piece has been put into this jig saw many many thanks
Trees

[Trees]

Now this is interesting Yesterday a fellow member sent me a report from the Wanganui Chronicle of Jan 11 1919 giving the results of Police examinations.
Among those qualifying for Senior Sergeant was:
No 801 Sergt. Frederick Adolphus WATERMAN, Ponsonby

Surely this must be one of Frederick and Ellen Laura's sons
I wonder can any one find anything more about him in NZ please

Trees

[Trees]

Update I have now found that FA snr married an Elizabeth Elliott in Reigate in 1872 and had a son with the same name in 1873

Can any one find them arriving in New Zealand ?
I wonder where and when Elizabeth died I can't see a death  in England and there are no Fredrick Adolphus Waterman (either 1873 or 1849)on the 1881 censuses
I know he married Laura Allen 1882 in Christchurch so he must have gone between 1873 and 1882.


How can I find out about the son's police career in New Zealand?
Trees

[Trees]

I think I have found the death of Elizabeth in 1873 in NZ so that closes the period of their emigration to 1876-1876
Also the death of Frederick Adolphus jnr in 1840 again in NZ

[spades]

Hi Trees,

I'm pleased you've managed to track your family down.

Regarding the service record of Sergt. Frederick Adolphus WATERMAN, the resource you probably want is Police Staff Register with Nominal Index. Book 1: 1859-1927 (held on Microfilm 3348) held at the Wellington office of Archives New Zealand.

However, due to privacy concerns this film is not available to view and therefore does not appear on the Archives NZ search portal Archway. You will need to write to the Commissioner of Police requesting permission to view the file. The address is;

The New Zealand Police Headquarters
P O Box 3017
Wellington
New Zealand

Once you have written permission you can contact Archives NZ Wellington to arrange a viewing. if you've not in NZ someone here might agree to view it on your behalf and you will need to arrange this in advance with Archives NZ (not hard, don't worry).

I am going to move this topic back to the main NZ Board in case others can offer advice.

Spades