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Re: Was she really shot in the head?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 14 May 09 23:11 BST (UK) »
Sandy,

Edmund Kindred was miller at "Kindred's Mill" in 1818 until c1830, with John Kindred miller in 1839.  John Escaped death when the mill collapsed while being raised in 1842.  Mill was tenanted by the Kindred's but owned by others.

Victoria Mill was built in 1843 by Whitmore & Binyon (local millwrights) and was being worked by John Kindred.  Most likely she was built oin site of the collapsed mill.  Between 1847 & 55 Frederick Kindred took over (Ipswich Journal, 1842/09/24) ;   John Kindred found his self in jail in 1853 for debt (London Gazette, 1853/05/17).

Frederick Kindred had died by 1863, having become bankrupt himself around 1857(London Gazette, 1857/01/27).

After this date no further Kindreds are recorded as millers in Fram.

Hope this helps with your research,

Windy Miller.

PS Anything you can add would be great!

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Re: Was she really shot in the head?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 14 May 09 23:14 BST (UK) »
Sandy,

Oops! Got my referances mixed up...

should have read;

"John escaped death when the mill collapsed while being raised in 1842 (Ipswich Journal, 1842/09/24)."

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Re: Was she really shot in the head?
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 21:20 BST (UK) »
Sandy,

A Samuel Kindred of Framlingham , a labourer, was committed to the Woodbridge Bridewell for obtaining grocery goods from a Susannah Freeman on false pretences in December 1828 according to the Ipswich Journal.

Have a look at 19th century British Newspapers from Gale Databases available from Lancashire Libraries, just join up online and start searching. Great fun, but no mention of anything about the name Kindred in 1829.

Tom

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Re: Was she really shot in the head?
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 21:30 BST (UK) »
LANCASHIRE = Wood,Howard,,Smethurst,Foxall,Cheetham,Brookes,Grime, Horrocks,Thornley,Arstall,Shawcross,Rowland,Mclean LINCOLNSHIRE = Featherstone Johnson,Toyne,Willson,


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Re: Was she really shot in the head?
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 21:35 BST (UK) »
I dunno,who am I supposed to be looking at?
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Re: Was she really shot in the head?
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 23:09 BST (UK) »
John Pope lives in a village near to Framlingham and he has been taking photographs of various headstones in churchyards.

The link that Woody32 has given is of John Pope's photos of Framlingham Cemetery in the older part of the cemetery (there is also a non-conformist area where we have found a few of ours who were at one time Congregationalist).

If you scroll down Sandy, you can find the headstones for Edmund and Frederick and a couple of other Kindred.

Did I mention that John called in on Auntie Ada (nee Kindred) Frost a couple of weeks ago.  She is still quite sprightly of mind although now in her 90s.  It is good to know she is well.

Pat ...
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Was she really shot in the head?
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 04 June 09 07:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks Pat..i should of put what it was :)
LANCASHIRE = Wood,Howard,,Smethurst,Foxall,Cheetham,Brookes,Grime, Horrocks,Thornley,Arstall,Shawcross,Rowland,Mclean LINCOLNSHIRE = Featherstone Johnson,Toyne,Willson,

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Re: Was she really shot in the head?
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 04 June 09 10:07 BST (UK) »
No problem,  :D   thank you for remembering that link - I had forgotten about John's work, which he is enjoying very much and it is a great help to researchers.

Although as the enquiry is about Fram and the website had photos of Fram cemetery - it was not too difficult to work out what was going on  8)

Pat ...
 

Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Was she really shot in the head?
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 04 June 09 11:43 BST (UK) »
Hello,

May I interupt this thread to say thank you for high lighting this web sight by John Pope. 
http://www.pope-genealogy.me.uk/framcemphoto.htm

I have found lots of info on my Barthrop's burials in Parham- most helpful! I looked for a contact number on the web site to thank him for it - but couldn't see one - so hope John realizes what a great help he is!

Mary.
O'Neill - Co. Clare, Ireland, Framlingham, Bury-St-Edmunds, Halesworth.
Vice, Vyce - Framlingham.