family history

[RosemaryJoan]

Yes, he seems to be in 'the old man's draft' still in New Jersey, but it's on pay per view in Ancestry.co.uk.
This is an entry in the 1911 census for Co. Down
Jane Lightbody, head of household, single, cannot read, age 51, embroiderer, SINGLE born Co. Down
Samuel Lightbody, son age 15, labourer
Mary Lightbody, daughter age 13, spinner
Alexander Lightbody, son age 10, scholar
Agnes Lightbody, daughter, age 4, scholar
address, 32 Shuttfield Street, Newtownards.
Interesting.
There is a happily married Samuel Moore in Newtownards also.
Sorry, I have an active imagination
No sign of William John Moore.  He may have been working elsewhere and is yet to be found.
RosemaryJoan

[a moore]

Tryed to find the old mans draft but couldnt the Willam John Moore was married in Kilwinning Ayrshire Scotland in 1909 have wedding cert for this he was a garden labourer can you tell me please who Samuel Moore was married to the one you mention in your last thread kind regards  A Moore

[RosemaryJoan]

The Old Man's Draft was included in WW2 Army Enlistment Records 1938-46
You can find it in www.ancestry.co.uk .  There is a WilliM J. Moore enlisting in New Jersey, but I don't have any tokens to view this record.
Now, back to Samuel Moore.  There are two of the right age to be William John's father
1. Samuel,51, of 82 Church Street , farm worker, married to Margaret (Shannon)
2.  Samuel Moore, 45, SINGLE, farmer's son, Whitespots, Newtownards living with his mother Mary, 72 and his sister Agnes.
The Jane Lightbody mentioned before did register her children's births.  They are all on the LDS Pilot Scheme of Civil Registration indexes.  I did notice a William John Lightbody born Jan/March 1885, Newtownards, but of course, no parents are given in this index and you would have to pay for a copy
There is one William John Moore born April/June 1888 in Newtownards
If you have William John's marriage record, what was his father's occupation??
RosemaryJoan

[a moore]

Hi RosemaryJoan i do have his fathers occupation he was a cart driver it does not say what his mother did William married a Maggie Johnston in 1909 it says his father was deceased have also found out that when regestering his first born son he stated that he married in Bangor Co Down in 10th Sept 1909/10 dont know if he was a bit forgetful if he was wetting the childs head he was 25 yrs old when he married Maggie was 26 had a child out of wed lock no W J Moores child was called voilet who we think was also born in ireland in 1905

[RosemaryJoan]

Dear a moore,  Now that you have a marriage date, I think you should go to
www.groni.gov.uk
and ask for a copy of the marriage details
This will verify the father's names and addresses and give a wee bit more information
You can do it online, and they will do a search for about $6 and then issue a certificate if you think this is the right marriage.
There are so many Johnstons and Moores in the Newtownards area that it is almost impossible to pin William and Maggie down.
Let us know how you are doing.
RosemaryJoan

[a moore]

Hello Rosemary Joan.
Dont know what to do here as i have a copy of marriage cert when they married in scotland and it only states as follows William John Moore age 25 bachelor usual res Byres Road Kilwinning Samuel Moore cart driver deceased Jane Moore ms Lightbody.
Maggie Johnston spinster age 26 usual res Tornyard Kilwinning father Samuel Johnston bricklayer MaryAnn Johnston ms Mcdonald deceased

[RosemaryJoan]

So William didn't marry in Bangor then, or did they have two marriage ceremonies??
Anyway, just supposing that the Samuel Moore, bachelor, 45 in 1911 was William John's father this is what I found:
Samuel Moore, born 1866, father William Moore, mother Mary Finley, who married in 1865 in Newtownards Presbyterian Church
and
just supposing that Jane Lightbody, spinster, age 51(?) in 1911 was his mother, this is what I have found:
Jane Lightbody, born 1869, father John, mother Ann Corne or Corns who were married in 1865 in Newtownards Church of Ireland.
I am sending you these details, as my subscription to Emerald Ancestors is going to expire soon, so just keep them in case they are relevant.
The only thing I can suggest is that you go onto the GRONI site and try to order William John's birth certificate.  You have a good idea of when and where he was born.  Give them all the info you have and see what they come up with.
As for Jane Lightbody's father John, he lived in Fisher's Hill,Bangor, Bangor Parish and
Samuel's father (probably William), he lived in Ballyskeagh Lower
Thiis is all deduction, as I would have to see their birth certificates to verify this.

RosemaryJoan

[a moore]

Hello RosemaryJoan
Thank you for the help that you are giving me it means such a lot not just to me but to my aunts as William and Maggie are there grandparents who we know very little about and i will try out what you say dont know if they marreid twice

[esthers]

Hi A Moore,

I think i am a descendant of William John Lightbody born 1869 in Newtownards and his first wife Jane you mention in this topic.

send me your email and i am happy to set out my 'tree' and hopefully fill in some blanks for u.

Thanks Esther

Hello Rosemary Joan.
Dont know what to do here as i have a copy of marriage cert when they married in scotland and it only states as follows William John Moore age 25 bachelor usual res Byres Road Kilwinning Samuel Moore cart driver deceased Jane Moore ms Lightbody.
Maggie Johnston spinster age 26 usual res Tornyard Kilwinning father Samuel Johnston bricklayer MaryAnn Johnston ms Mcdonald deceased

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