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Re: Smiths and Tolleys of Ward St Bilston
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 April 09 00:59 BST (UK) »
hmmm not too sure bout those last couple... but, i will see what I can see  lol thank you again so much :)
Smith, Tolley, Griffiths,
Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
Brazier, Filben, Fibben,Filbin
Sherdon, Churden,Sheldon
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, Bilston, Kent, London, Middlesex

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Re: Smiths and Tolleys of Ward St Bilston
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 02 February 14 14:53 GMT (UK) »
peeks back in, cos its been a while since I did any tree work lol
Smith, Tolley, Griffiths,
Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
Brazier, Filben, Fibben,Filbin
Sherdon, Churden,Sheldon
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, Bilston, Kent, London, Middlesex

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Re: Smiths and Tolleys of Ward St Bilston
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 09 February 14 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Dear Truebrit

I have Smiths around Ward St Bilston, Gibbet Gate, which was the behind The Gate Pub which is still at Priestfields on the Bilston Road, first names are William Smith born 1814 Bilston parents George and either Sarah or Anne, brother Richard, born Bilston 1818, he married Lucetta Dancer of Wednesfield Heath in December 1837 at St Peter's Wolverhampton and had children , Caroline born 1847, Jane born 1844, Sarah Ann, born 1857, Emma born 1842, Mary Ann born 1838 and finally Alfred born 1859 or 1860. The Smiths were metal workers, either Blacksmiths, or Iron Rollers, William was a railway engineer who worked the mines, but also a iron roller, he died some time between 1871 and 1881 because he was on the one census but not the other. His youngest son became a Boiler maker at the large Thompsons place that used to be in Millfields Road. I descend from Caroline, who got knocked up by a swarthy irish gyspy from the Stow Heath gypsy passing place or possibly when they were at Buggins Lane, Wednesfield, another gypsy passing place back in the day.She never married him so that her son, Samuel, born October 1867 was illegitimate until she married Isiah Hughes in 1870. Do any of these names mean anything to you? I ask because Sam's father is shrouded in mystery, we just know he was a gypsy and probably a smithyman, ie a metal worker because blacksmithing and tool making are common trades on that side of our family and tool making/Brasiering was a very well known gypsy trade along with chair making and of course , Horsetrading! The Hughes family into which Caroline married were also, Horsetraders, and Horseshoemakers, well known gypsy trades.   If your Smiths are my Smiths can you tell me what you know about them? Sam married twice, don't know his first wife, but second wife was Mary Ann Lewis, married 1st April 1895,and they had children Alice 1901(my grandmother), Sam (1903) Lucetta (1904) Alfred (1905) , William, (known as Bill) 1906 and Violet 1910

Anything you can tell me about the Smiths would be appreciated.

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Re: Smiths and Tolleys of Ward St Bilston
« Reply #12 on: Monday 03 March 14 14:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Romarin...

Sorry I didnt get back to you faster... (to be honest, I read it and forgot to reply lolol)

Not sure if we are the same family, but very possible, off the top of my head Im not sure what numbers my smiths were.. but they lived at a few different houses in ward street thru a few generations.. My Smiths... were a family of ten... there dad being William Thomas(known as 'Fatty Smith', with wife Mary Ann (all I know of his dad for sure is it was John... and he was a blast furnace engineer.. possibly, from Cosely)...

among the kids, was My dad, Jim, born 33.. thru alf, george, jack, harry (really name william harry, but they just called him harry, he was the eldest born 1915 and died in Italy in ww2 after being blown up by a grenade) there wss also gladys, lillian and alan... who was councillor for either ettingshall or bilston.. until the last few years when he sadly passed away...

Feel free to drop me a line and maybe we are the same smiths!! would be nice if we were, Ive constantly struggled w em lol

Im printing off your post so I can have a better look at it and see if I can find anything

Andy Smith
Smith, Tolley, Griffiths,
Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
Brazier, Filben, Fibben,Filbin
Sherdon, Churden,Sheldon
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, Bilston, Kent, London, Middlesex