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Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 31 October 10 08:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello Sandy

Have noted your postings re the Barnes family of Cootamundra NSW and would like you to contact me please at (*). I am helping a friend with her family research and she is a direct descendant of Thomas Alfred Barnes.

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Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 31 October 10 10:07 GMT (UK) »
More stuff has come online since this thread started

Taken from images of parish registers

Baptisms
St George in the East, Middlesex.
11 Aug 1816 (born 29 Dec 1814) Susannah Eliza Barnes dau of Joseph and Elizabeth, servant. Born in the parish of Keysoe in the county of Bedford.
20 Sept 1818 (born 27 Jul 1818) Rebecca Barnes dau of Joseph & Elizabeth, labourer of Turner St
10 Jun 1821 (born 14 Feb 1821) Joseph Samuel Barnes son of Joseph & Elizabeth,  Brewer's servant of Taling? St

The baptism of Susannah begs the question as to why she was baptised twice (or was she - the 3 Dec 1815 date may be fiction), but the 1816 baptism entry thankfully provides the evidence that links Joseph and Elizabeth to Beds, and Keysoe is only four miles from Bletsoe. As they seem to have been lax about baptising her promptly, perhaps John wasn't done at all.

A Susanna Barnes, daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth, baptised at Bletsoe on 3 Dec 1815.  As I said I'm in SE Asia and don't have access to certain resources that are available in Sydney. So I can't check the shipping reel for the 'Bussorah Merchant'
to see what it says about Susanna. I don't know if it lists a place of birth or her parents or not. Also I don't have access to the source that says she "... had entered the Refuge for the Destitute in 1831" and two years later was offered the possibility of emigration which she took with her father's permission. I don't know what it might say about her father other than a brewer's servant at 2 Collingwood Street,  Spitalfields, East London.
The above baptism, and her father's occupation in 1821 would seem to tie up very neatly with the Susannah Eliza who emigrated in 1833

Marriage. St Antholin & St John the Baptist, London
14 July 1833 John Barnes bach otp and Elizabeth King ELLEN spinster otp by banns. Both signed, Witnesses William Waller & Eliza Brewster

David
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            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 31 October 10 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Baptisms
11 Aug 1816 (born 29 Dec 1814) Susannah Eliza Barnes dau of Joseph and Elizabeth, servant. Born in the parish of Keysoe in the county of Bedford.

Good morning,  with Keysoe baptisms not on the IGI: from the transcript there is a baptism of William son of Joseph & Elizabeth Barnes on 8 July 1810. That's the only Barnes there for that timespan.

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Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« Reply #30 on: Monday 01 November 10 04:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi twinks
post two more times and then you can send me a personal message
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Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« Reply #31 on: Monday 01 November 10 04:37 GMT (UK) »
MRS. ISABELLA BARNES. OBIT 1925

Mrs. Isabella Barnes, who had resided at Mosman for 20 years, died recently at her residence, Hendon, Punch-street, Mosman, at the age of 85 years. She was born at Cunningham Plains, near  Cootamundra, and was the widow of the late Mr. J. A. Barnes, who 65 years ago established the Arm of Messrs, T. and G. Barnes, merchants, at Murrunburrah. The late Mr. Barnes, who was the original owner of the well-known stores at  Cootamundra and Murrumburrah, was shot at Wallendbeen by O'Malley, of the Ben Hall gang of bushrangers The late Mrs. Barnes was once "stuck up" by bushrangers many years ago. Mrs.Barnes was a member of the Stinson family, pioneers of the Coolamon district.
The late Mrs Barnes is survived by three sons and three daughters. The sons are Mr, Alfred Barnes (of Messrs. Holdshlp, Barnes,& Co., solicitors), Dr. B. H. Barnes (Mosman), and Messrs.Arthur Barnes (Customs Department,) Reginald Barnes (A. M. L and Ī P. Company), Thomas Barnes (Railway Survey Branch), and John Barnes (Mosman). The daughters are Mrs. Higgins (wife of Mr. P. R, Higgins, barrister), Mrs.Tindall, and Mrs, Fred Allsop.

SMH Sat 4 April 1925   NLA Newspapers online

Note: The writer has confused her husband as John Barnes when in reality it was his son Thomas Barnes.

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Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« Reply #32 on: Monday 01 November 10 04:44 GMT (UK) »
Isabella Barnes

A quick search found a current image of the house at Mosman NSW where Isabella lived for over 20 years before her death in 1925. The house is called 'Hendon', 4 Punch Street, Mosman NSW and was built  in the Federation style about 1899.

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Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 05 January 11 03:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the photo of the Mosman house.

I have recently started doing research on the family, and my father has also done a lot of research as well. If you have anything I can help with in particular, please let me know. I am a direct descendant of this family and have been putting quite a bit of info together as I can find bits and pieces.

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Philip.

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Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 05 January 11 04:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi phillip
are you direct from John and Jane Barnes?
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Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 05 January 11 04:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Silky,

My 3rd Great Grandfather was John Barnes (married to Elizabeth), and my Great Grandmother was Jane Barnes (married to Alfred Edward, son of Thomas whose Father was John).

Hope that answers your question...

Philip