WAKEFIELD.. CAN ANYONE HELP?

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[AMBLY]

I Am Trying To Find Juliana's Maiden name, She Was married To Thomas Wakefield.

They Were Married Around 1800 - 1820 In Derby?

They Had 6 Children..

Thomas Wakefield... born - 1837
John Wakefield
Edwin Wakefield
Richard Wakefield
Juliana Wakefield
Mary Ann Wakefield
(Not In Order)

They Used To Attend The St Mary's Gate Chapel In Derby?

Their Adress Was Spring Roads, Normanton Road?

They Also Lived In Chester Sometime In Their Life..

I Really Want To Find Out Juliana's Maiden name..

Can Anyone Help?

Hi

Juliana in the Census 1841 to 1881 - all in Chesire -  is consistent with being born about  1797 in  Ripley, Derbyshire. All children stated born in Derbyshire.

The birth certificate of the youngest child, Mary Ann abt 1839, or Thomas if he was registered from the Sep Qtr 1837 onwards, should provide Juliana's maiden name.....

However, there is a tree on A****ces**ry with this family in it.  It gives Juliana's  maiden names as CARWITHEN, and her parents as:    John CARWITHEN(b 1762) and Sarah GETLIFFE (b1764 - died 1838), with siblings named Martha b 1788 and John b 1794.

The tree doesn't include a son of Thomas & Juliana named Richard (who also doesn't appear in the census) with them either, but perhaps he was either older and moved on by 1841, or died young?

Edwin WAKEFIELD b abt 1823 Derby
Richard WAKEFIELD
John WAKEFIELD b abt 1826 Derbyshire
Juliana WAKEFIELD b abt 1831 Derby,
Thomas WAKEFIELD b 1837 Derby
Mary Ann WAKEFIELD b abt 1839 Derby

http://www.pentrich.org.uk/html/surnames.a-z.html
Pentrich Historical Society (Ripley is in the Parish of Pentrich)
A researcher is listed as connected,inquiring abt John CARWITHEN b 1794 - who, from the above references, may be Juliana's brother.

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

If you search the IGI for CARWITHEN, all, in Derbyshire - there is:\ among them:
CHRISTENING: Juliana CARWITHEN chr 14 Aug 1796, Pentrich, father : John CARWITHEN

And :
MARRIAGE: Juliana CARWITHIN and Thomas WAKEFIELD, 15 Aug 1822, Saint Werburgh, Derby

Both are extracted records.

This is probably her brother in 1841:
HO107 /  Piece 199 /  Book: 3 /  Folio: 14 /  Pg 23
1841: Orchard St No. 2, Parish of St Alkmund, Derbyshire
John CARWITHIN 45, Tailor
Ann CARWITHIN 35
George CARWITHIN 15
Appolinah CARWITHIN (female), 15, Silk Winder
Juliana CARWITHIN 13, F.S.
Ann CARWITHIN 6,
Mary DAWSON 60
ALL born Derbyshire

Cheers
AMBLY

[karen higgins]

Do You Think Carwithen is A Welsh Surname?

And My Granny Said That Thomas Wakefield Was Related To Sir Humphry Wakefield, Can Anyone Conferm This?

hello,
  julianna carwithin and thomas wakefield were my 5th great grandparents
they had a son called john who married mary cheers and they had alfred wakefield my3rd great grandfather and his brother charles cheers wakefield
who when he died in 1941 was known as viscount wakefield of hythe he also owned castrol oil and was lord mayor of london, sir humprey i have not come across yet

[karen higgins]

i have had a look at sir humprey wakefield and his tree and i think granny may be right i believe that my 9th greatparents are the same as his
 just need help proving two branch's have being tracing back since i read that edward jerringham wakefield was viscount charles cheers wakefields
second cousin.

[karen higgins]

yes my grandmother said something about charles cheers wakefield, and my decendants come from esther sommers and thomas wakefield, thomas was born in 1837 in derby... thats all i know about this family but my grandmother has more information about them would you like me to ask her and write it all on here?

hello,
         that would be great if you would not mind .
so how is granny related to thomas was he her great,great grandfather?
and was thomas born 1837 a minister ?

                                         many thanks
                                             karen

[Andrew_Bandrew]

yeah sure its something to do with esther sommers that were related :S i dont know how i will ring my granny tomorrow and ask her 

[karen higgins]

yeah sure its something to do with esther sommers that were related :S i dont know how i will ring my granny tomorrow and ask her

                 does granny know if esther sussanah sommers married dec 1881 barton regis to thomas wakefield born 1836 derby was his second wife? married before i believe to a rebbeca and has she heard of him ever going to africa?



                                  your wakefield relation

[karen higgins]

Hello, Yes My Granny Knows Esther Sommers Whos Mother Was Lilian Lea And Father Was Robert Sommers... And She Married Thomas Wakefield... And His Wife Who Went To Africa Sadly Died Giving Birth To His Child In Africa... My Great Granny (Florence Bayliss) Is Leonard John Wakefield's Daughter...

My Granny Said...

Leonard John wakefield Was First Cousins To CHarles Cheers Wakefield...

Charles Cheers Wakefield Being The Son Of John Wakefield, Brother To Thomas Wakefield (The Missionary)...

I Hope This Helps You & Hope You can Help Me Back With More Info

hello, thanks for the information you have given me.
i found out yesterday that he was married too rebecca brewin i thought i was on the right track for a couple of weeks now but needed to confirm this which i have now done . his first wife went with him to ribe (near mombasa)
were she had a daughter called rebbeca nellie wakefield and then they had another child who died so did his wife but i think it was from some sort of fever can let you know for definatley later, so his daughter was sent back to england and he followed much later thats when he met esther sussanah sommers and married and she went with him too ribe for 5 years. this is all mentioned in a book that i found on line called the memoirs of rebbeca wakefield written by her brother. there is also a biography of thomas wakefield and the author is e.s wakefield at the latter day saints on micro fiche but i do not live near a latter day saints so may never know what is said about him, he was a remarkable man i feel he served for 27 years in kenya and was known as bwana wakfili .
there is lots of information about him too much for me too write i could send you the links i have found so you can have a look if you like?

can i just confirm
leonard john wakefield was the son of esther sommers and thomas wakefield?

                        hope to hear from you soon
                                        karen