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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 16:25 BST (UK) »
Vintner is technically a winemaker or merchant. - but usually another name for a publican


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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 16:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks Shane, Do you think that later he could be referred to as a Waiter. 1875 on a UK marriage cert.? or his this a long stretch !!!
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 18:30 BST (UK) »
it may be a little bit of step-down from being a vintner but I suppose he would have had the right sort of experience to work as a waiter in a pub or hotel.



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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 09:32 BST (UK) »
Ingrid,

There are five Peter Martins, see below,

Patrick Martin, 16 Abbey Street, Shoemaker (1835)
Patrick Martin, 124 Mecklinburgh Street (1832) either a barber or bester.. very hard to read this one.
Patrick Martin, 64 Mary's Lane, Broker (1935)
Patrick Martin, 64 Mary's Lane, Broker (1932)
Patrick Martin, 16 Abbey Street, Shoemaker (1832)

There is a Peter Martin
At 22 Great Britain Street, Saddler (1932) and there was  a John at 17 Gt Britain Street
Wilson: Kirkoswald, Scotland and Dublin
Breen: Hendrick Street, Brunswick Street,Dublin
Moore: Kildare and Dublin
lyons: Hendrick Street and Brunswick Street,Dublin
Donnelly: Marrowbone lane, Braithwaite street, Dublin
Byrne: Mercer Street, Dublin
Mills: Dublin, Wicklow
Higgins: Dublin
Gray: Aryshire, Scotland
Mills King, Wicklow and Dublin
Donegan, St Catherines Parish, Dublin
Murphy: Enniscorthy and Ballybanoge, Wexford
Browne, Crean, Kelly, Keavney: Sligo.


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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 11:04 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the information.
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 22:29 BST (UK) »
Martin family of Dublin has been difficult to research.  Related or not?

Alexander Macaulay (1819-1849) of Cushendall, Co. Antrim m. 1848 at Rathfarnham Church, Dublin to Maria Martin, dau of John Martin of Air Hill, Rathgar.

They had one son, also an Alexander.  Their son m. Emily Rotherham, dau of George A. Rotherham, High Sheriff of Co. Meath.

I cant see any sign of an 'Air Hill' in Rathgar around the 1850s - but in later years (1870/80) there is an Airfield Terrace and cottages in Rathgar..

I found an Airhill, and Airhill terrace in Kingstown (Dún Laoghaire) and an Airhill (house) in Loughlinstown - near to Shankill.

Of the listing I saw the closest to Rathgar would be

  Mrs. Delaney Air Park, Scholarstown, Rathfarnham (src:Thom's 1850)

I also found a possible Rotherham connection in Slaters-1846
In the nobility, gentry, clergy section for Castle-pollard, Co. Westmeath

  Geo. Rotherhams, Esq. Sally Mount

link to the directory : http://www.failteromhat.com/slater.htm
Castlepollard page : http://www.failteromhat.com/slater/0363.pdf


Shane

Hi.

I noted that you mentioned having found an Air Hill in Loughlinstown near to Shankill.  I have been looking for an Air Hill House in Loughlinstown for some time.  I wonder can you provide me with a source please?

Kind regards

Ronnie Tucker
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 22 October 09 09:48 BST (UK) »

I cant see any sign of an 'Air Hill' in Rathgar around the 1850s - but in later years (1870/80) there is an Airfield Terrace and cottages in Rathgar..

I found an Airhill, and Airhill terrace in Kingstown (Dún Laoghaire) and an Airhill (house) in Loughlinstown - near to Shankill.

Of the listing I saw the closest to Rathgar would be

  Mrs. Delaney Air Park, Scholarstown, Rathfarnham (src:Thom's 1850)

I also found a possible Rotherham connection in Slaters-1846
In the nobility, gentry, clergy section for Castle-pollard, Co. Westmeath

  Geo. Rotherhams, Esq. Sally Mount

link to the directory : http://www.failteromhat.com/slater.htm
Castlepollard page : http://www.failteromhat.com/slater/0363.pdf


Shane

Hi.

I noted that you mentioned having found an Air Hill in Loughlinstown near to Shankill.  I have been looking for an Air Hill House in Loughlinstown for some time.  I wonder can you provide me with a source please?

Kind regards

Ronnie Tucker

I believe that it was mentioned in a Thom's directory of Dublin, either 1850 or 1863. I'll check and get back to you..


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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 22 October 09 12:42 BST (UK) »
Dear Shane

I appreciate that, thanks.

Kind regards

Ronnie Tucker
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 22 October 09 17:35 BST (UK) »
found Air Hill listed in several editions of Thom's, see below for the occupants :

Loughlinstown (Cabinteely)
1848/50/52 Mr. Edward Kennedy, Air Hill,

Shanganagh (Loughlinstown)
1863 - Thomas Smith esq, Air Hill,
1877/80 - Captain Sullivan R.N., Airhill
1884 - Airhill - vacant

not found in later editions (1894/1914)

I located the house on an old OS map, it's located about 400m south east of the Rathdown workhouse/St. Columcille's Hospital.

see general location on this google map : http://www.rootschat.com/links/07bm/  Air Hill - would have been about 200m due west of the marker

The house is also marked on Griffiths maps :
 townland : Shanganagh
 Civil Parish : Rathmichael

Air Hill is located in site number 16  and is listed to a Francis Carter Esq, leasing land 14 acres from Miss Martha Roberts.

 see: http://www.rootschat.com/links/07bq/
 (first entry on the page)



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