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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #36 on: Friday 09 July 10 15:03 BST (UK) »
Is it possible to find who may have live in a tenement building say in 1863? Any ideas ?
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #37 on: Friday 09 July 10 15:18 BST (UK) »
Is it possible to find who may have live in a tenement building say in 1863? Any ideas ?

probably not possible...  occupants of tenements etc were not listed in Griffiths and also not usually listed in directories and street listings. When people were listed due to their trade or business etc it would only be the head of household that was included.

You may be able to get an idea of who lived at a address by searching parish records, but sometimes the addresses on these only mention the street, rather than an actual number.


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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 10 July 10 05:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks Shane.
 I am still trying to get information for John Martin the father of the family.

I know the family were living at 6 Gratten Place off Mount Street in 1863 when Charlotte married.

I also know that he was a waiter from his son John's marriage cert, he married in Liverpool 1875. But that is all I seem to be able to get .

I have other possible children Thomas and Joseph  from my  searches at the Irish genealogy site but without knowing who the Mother was it makes identifying the rest of the family difficult.

On his daughter Charlotte's marrage listing in the Dublin Heritage site (I got this when I was in there last time I visited Ireland) it made a ref to Ann, Margaret, as being deceased.
Leo in the Library at Pearse said it was a ref to the mother but again I haven't been able to find anything as she may have been Ann or Margaret or there may have been children who died too.

Any suggestion as to where I can go from here or have I hit the famous brick wall?? Regards Ingrid
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 10 July 10 10:32 BST (UK) »
You probably already have this but I checked Thom's 1863 for the address :

 Grattan place  (off Grattan Street)
  1 tenements
  2 Thos. James Walsh, cook & confectr.
  4. Mr. John Horan G.P.O
  5-6. tenements
  7 Mr. John Forde
  8-22 tenements

One possibility for further research would be to track any records you can find for Martin families in the parish, and gradually build them into separate family lines. That way when you find possible members you can check where they fit to see if they are your Martins or not.

One problem you may find with RC records is that they dont usually mention a persons occupation, which might have been useful to check any possible various John Martins.

I'd say the best way to do this is to use the website at http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/  They are adding more RC records for Dublin city later in the year.

Do you know when father John died ?  Even though death certs dont contain much information If he died 1864 or later it might be worth searching for one.

p.s. one more possible (very) long shot - if the family were involved in some newsworthy event, legal (or criminal) matter, they may be mentioned in a news article. If this is the case, an item probably would not give much family detail, as it could refer to people as 'Mr. Martin of ..zzz address etc. It might be worth a try...The Irish Times started publishing in 1859, and other newspapers were being published at the time - e.g. Freemans Journal. (both are available on subscriptions websites)


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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 10 July 10 10:59 BST (UK) »
MANY THANKS  SHANE I WILL TRY  BUILDING THE MARTIN FAMILIES OF ST ANDREWS RC PARISH AS YOU SUGGESTED.  MAYBE NOT A BRICK WALL YET !!!
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 26 May 12 19:36 BST (UK) »
Was your father a butcher and lived around bath ave sandymount ?

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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 27 May 12 08:26 BST (UK) »
Yes He had a shop in Bath Ave .
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 27 May 12 09:59 BST (UK) »
My name is Eamon martin . I had a butcher shop at 55 Moore st where i traded for over 40 years. I will be remembered not for the value sold but as the "talking butcher" where i used to use an auto repeat tape recorder [do you remember them ?] those were great days 60s to early 90s . For a time i lived with family in sandymount and got the #3 bus outside Clary's . One evening i sat beside a very fit looking man and soon we had introduced ourselves and discovered we were of the same trade. He told me he was traveling out to visit a son in Australia and was so looking forward to it. Later i was shocked to learn he had passed away and i still remember the conversation we had on that bus heading home to sandymount.
I wonder have you any connection to the Eamon Martin with 1916 connections who lived in the rise mt merrion ? i lived in the same # house in the rise glasnevin so sometimes i got his post and he got mine.  My family came from Cartron Ros commen and Doon Offaly . See flicker.com tap in martins doon or see Eamon martin face book . If ever you come to Dublin town we can meet up any wed or Friday and just talk Dublin chat.....

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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 27 May 12 17:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Eamon
Yes that would have been my Dad Kevin Martin. Sadly he died in Sydney of a massive heart attack. He was indeed related to that famous Eamon Martin. Eamon was a younger brother of John my grandfather.  When did your family leave Roscommon? 
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