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Edward TREASURE
« on: Friday 03 April 09 11:01 BST (UK) »
I am seeking any information re Edward Treasure, born 3 March 1825 and convicted of larceny on 28 March 1848 in Wells, believed to be his second conviction, sentenced to 10 years. Transferred from the Stirling Castle Hulk to the Minden  16 July 1851 transported to Fremantle West Australia. By 1880 he and his wife were considered affluent through farming and land. I would like to know more about the conviction, the family and/or the Stirling Castle if possible. His property Martinup is being considered for heritage listing and we are gathering interesting info for possible text/displays
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Re: Edward TREASURE
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 April 09 00:54 BST (UK) »
I can find only one Edwd TREASURE of that era recorded in 1841 aged 15 [rounded down] a Prisoner 'Laborer' Not born in County in the General Penitentiary, St John The Evangelist, Westminster [County: Middlesex]

See http://www.plymouthdata.info/Prison%20Ships.htm for brief details of the Stirling Castle.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Edward TREASURE
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 April 09 01:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Dee Jay. The age seems right, do you know how I find out the details of the conviction? I don't quite follow your last sentence, does that mean he was in prison in that Parish area? Thanks again, Merilyn

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Re: Edward TREASURE
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 April 09 01:45 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately, the 1841 Census only gives a Yes or No response to whether born in same County where he was enumerated.

I can't access 1851 Census but if not transported until July 1851 he might feature elsewhere in the UK, which should give his actual birthplace, if known.  I note in the Ancestry 1851 index there is an Ed TREASURE born about 1821 recorded in Hampshire, where there were offshore prison hulks.  Perhaps some other kind soul could check that census return for you?

I'm sorry I can't assist with details of the conviction
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Edward TREASURE
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 April 09 01:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Dee Jay. The age seems right, do you know how I find out the details of the conviction? I don't quite follow your last sentence, does that mean he was in prison in that Parish area? Thanks again, Merilyn
The 4 other males convicted on the same date, same charge, same sentence were William Chamberlain, William King , Charles Gibbons and William Castle.

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Re: Edward TREASURE
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 April 09 02:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks, I didn't think of the 1851 as he was transported, but of course they were done before July. He was in the hulk 'Stirling Castle' which I think was at Plymouth.

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Re: Edward TREASURE
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 April 09 02:40 BST (UK) »
1851
Amongst the prisoners on the Stirling Castle Convict Hulk in Portsmouth Harbour, Hampshire
Ed TREASURE, prisoner unm, 20 or 26, labourer, born Somerset Stoke Lane
HO107 1658 497 5

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Re: Edward TREASURE
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 April 09 02:43 BST (UK) »
Brilliant, Ian!

There are loads of TREASUREs in 1841 at Stoke Lane and I note there are Bishops' Transcripts for Stoke Lane [aka Stoke St Michael] at Taunton, so it should be possible to establish his ancestral line.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Edward TREASURE
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 April 09 03:03 BST (UK) »
If you do not already have it
Stoke Lane baptisms
1825 Apr 10, TREASURE Edward, s/o Levi & Elizabeth, Stoke, collier, born 1825 Mar 3

Lots of siblings on the IGI starting about 1806.

Levi and Elizabeth were still around in 1861, he being 89.

Might be him baptised at Stoke Lane 8 Oct 1771, son of James TRESURE. Name is transcribed as Leuey/Luey/Lewis, so must have been a bit unreadable.

Downhead marriages
1806 Jan 13
TREASURE Levi, of the parish of Stoke Lane
TRUSLER Betty, otp
wits: John Walter, Hannah LEWIS, banns

Downhead baptism
1779 Feb 14
TRUSLER Bete, F, Thomas & Ann

Ian C
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