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Lookup 1851 Lambeth please-Shields, poss. reference given-Complete
« on: Friday 18 February 05 04:09 GMT (UK) »
I was very excited to find my grgrgrgrandfather James Albert Shields in the 1861 census on 1837online......but then discovered that his father didn't seem to be at home...although his mother was listed as married.

So..I would be really grateful if anyone might be able to find James and possibly his mother and father in the 1851 census/index if they have it.

In 1861 James and his mother were living at 18 Isabella st, Lambeth and there details were:
Eliza A. Shields 48 Married bn Southwark Surrey Dressmaker
James A. Shields 18 bn. Lambeth Tin Man

Isabella st. seems to be on the border of Lambeth and Southwark, but in 1861 no. 18 is in Lambeth registration district.

Thanks for any help anyone might be able to give me,

Best regards,

Emily
Cork: Collins,
Herts/Beds:  Pope,Harwood
Essex:  Bryant, Pumfrey, Williams, Keyes,Totham, Citchen
Surrey/London: Shields, Woolf, Cooper, Quinton, Plumer
other: Cuskern,  Domazsewicz
Wales: Morgan, Mathews, Thomas (x2), Trew, Protheroe, Owen

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Re: Lookup 1851 Lambeth please-Shields, poss. address given
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 February 05 11:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Emily
At 18 Isabella St Lambeth in 1851 are the following families,
Buntin, Swinburn and Taylor.
Went through the whole of the street at not there.
Sorry, Cougar
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Re: Lookup 1851 Lambeth please-Shields, poss. address given
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 February 05 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Also not in the 51 partial name index.
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Re: Lookup 1851 Lambeth please-Shields, poss. address given
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 February 05 04:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cougar and Ken,

Thanks both of you for looking for my Shields's for me. I had hoped that they might be the one family of mine in London that didn't move house every six months (or at least between each census).
I think I may now yesterday have found the birth GRO ref for James...although I couldn't read the page no. on the image very well......I think I might have to guess at it and hope that the GRO can work it out..

Thanks again for your time,

Emily
Cork: Collins,
Herts/Beds:  Pope,Harwood
Essex:  Bryant, Pumfrey, Williams, Keyes,Totham, Citchen
Surrey/London: Shields, Woolf, Cooper, Quinton, Plumer
other: Cuskern,  Domazsewicz
Wales: Morgan, Mathews, Thomas (x2), Trew, Protheroe, Owen

Census information is Crown copyright


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Re: Lookup 1841/1851 Lambeth please-Shields, poss. address given
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 March 05 07:47 GMT (UK) »
I've now recieved James's birth cert. from Oct. 1841, so I now know his fathers name, but would be  interested to see if he had any brothers or sisters so very grateful if anyone could find the family in 1841 or 1851.

The address on the birth cert. is Mary St (poss. G. Mary St)
parish of st Marys, reg district Lambeth church 1st part.

And the family should be:
John George Shields aged 26 occ. Brassier(?) later he is down as Ironmonger bn Lambeth
Eliza Ann Shields aged 27ish bn Southwark
(ages as per 1841)
in 1851 there should be a James Albert aged 9 living with them

Thanks for any help,
Emily
Cork: Collins,
Herts/Beds:  Pope,Harwood
Essex:  Bryant, Pumfrey, Williams, Keyes,Totham, Citchen
Surrey/London: Shields, Woolf, Cooper, Quinton, Plumer
other: Cuskern,  Domazsewicz
Wales: Morgan, Mathews, Thomas (x2), Trew, Protheroe, Owen

Census information is Crown copyright

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Re: Lookup 1841/1851 Lambeth please-Shields, poss. address given-updated
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 March 05 08:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Emily
HO107 1057 ED8 p 132 for 1841
Mary St Lambeth
John Shields, 25 gap(gas?) fitter, born London
Eliza, 20, born London
John 18mths born London.

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Re: Lookup 1841/1851 Lambeth please-Shields, poss. address given-updated
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 March 05 08:37 GMT (UK) »
HI again
In 1841 there are 2 Mary St Lambeth - in 1851 only One and they are not showing there.
Cougar
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Re: Lookup 1841/1851 Lambeth please-Shields, poss. address given-updated
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 March 05 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cougar,

Thanks so much for looking for my Shields' again....and for finding them in 1841.  It's nice to have a brother for James, he was one of the few people I had in my tree with no siblings.
Wonder where they can have got to in 1851?.....it'll have to wait until a more complete name index I guess.

Thanks again for your help,

Emily
Cork: Collins,
Herts/Beds:  Pope,Harwood
Essex:  Bryant, Pumfrey, Williams, Keyes,Totham, Citchen
Surrey/London: Shields, Woolf, Cooper, Quinton, Plumer
other: Cuskern,  Domazsewicz
Wales: Morgan, Mathews, Thomas (x2), Trew, Protheroe, Owen

Census information is Crown copyright

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Re: Lookup 1841/1851 Lambeth please-Shields, poss. address given-updated
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 March 05 12:55 GMT (UK) »
They weren't in Bethnal green or Whitechapel in 1851

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