Adoption - Haedicke

[suziq]

Hi
I have just got the birth cert for Charles William Richard Collins.  It states his birthday as being 17th February 1888 born at 28 Lower Chapman Street but his mothers name is given as Alice, an office cleaner.  No fathers name or occupation!!

Any thoughts as to whether this may be the correct CWR??

Look forward to hearing from you
Suziq

[jorose]

Hi Suziq, are both the location of birth and the address of the person who registered the birth (probably "Alice"), the same?
If you or the other people working on this family can find his birthday from somewhere, that would help.
Certainly I cannot see a marriage or death for this boy under the surname Collins.

Haedocke is how Frederick's death is registered (in 1916). It may be worth seeing if he left a will.

[suziq]

Hi
Yes I was hoping the dob may be able to confirm or deny this!!! I was also thinking about a will but don't know how to go about this  (my own family never had anything to leave!!)
Any info would be appreciated

Many thanks
Suziq

[dawnsh]

Hi

I'll be able to have a look at the Probate Calendars for England and Wales at the Principal Registry in Holborn sometime next week if that helps.

Dawn

[jean haedicke cave]

The birth-mother called Alice? is her second name Collins?
I am pretty sure the mothers name was Rose or Rosa Collins
My brother has all this in storage in England but is just flying out to Australia.
I also have it written down as well but need to go through stuff in boxes in the attic.
Also my mum once told me that CRW only discovered he was not Jennys child when Frederick died.
If he was indeed bankrupted in 1906 there might not be much to show anyway.
Some bits and pieces left by my grannie(Johanna) to my dad, turned out to NOT be genuine
and some stuff was just copies of older furniture from Heals.
So I am thinking there was a bit of "bigging it up" going on in later years, and
she definitely had a tendency to lyonise .

[suziq]

Hi
The birth mother was Alice Collins of 28 Lower Chapman Street.  Do you know CRW's date of birth?

Dawn - if you wouldn't mind that would be great, thank you.

Suziq

[jean haedicke cave]

I am sorry we never celibrated his birthday with him.
we had sunday dinner wi†h them frequently though.
I spent time with grannie mostly, helping her at the Cricket Club etc.

thanks for clarifying Alice although people often use a different name it seems

do you know if the birth record gives the DOB of the mum?
They married in 1914 I think.

[suziq]

No sorry no dob for the mother, just says she is an office cleaner

[jean haedicke cave]

There appears to be a few alice rosa or rosa alice collins in the london area about the right age?
but the Charles richard william in the right order is a major plus wouldnt you say?

perhaps she became an office cleaner when she got pregnant and was no longer in service?
It seems like a very "modern" occupation for the 1880's

I am baby sitting elsewhere tonight but I will have a good look through my papers tomorrow.