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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #90 on: Friday 03 July 09 11:09 BST (UK) »


 :)

Hello Weech

Please may I prevail upon you to upload that marvelous Relationship Calculator and see if you can post how both yourself and myself are related?     ???     !!!!

And,

how you are related to "baitken"?    ???

and,

how I am related to "Baitken"?     ???

Many thanks

Danchaslyn

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MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa

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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #91 on: Friday 03 July 09 12:44 BST (UK) »
Hello Weech
Please may I prevail upon you to upload that marvelous Relationship Calculator and see if you can post how both yourself and myself are related?     ???     !!!!

Question was already asked-
Hello Weech
Wish someone would help us work out our very complicated relationship???!!   ???
And answered-
Had a look at your complicated relationship to Weech. As far as I can see you are not related at all. Both you and Weech are 2nd cousins to Robert Aitken and Carĝline Lobbs grandchildren. You on the Aitken side and Weech on the Lobb side.
I realise that weech and I are related by marriage and I phoned and asked a friend in a distant town, to attempt to do what you have just achieved.   ;)
The results were inconclusive as apparently it was almost impossible to try to match up myself as a great niece/nephew of Sir Robert Aitken, and weech being a grandchild of Sir Robert Aitken's, wife's sister!
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #92 on: Friday 03 July 09 12:57 BST (UK) »


 :)

aghadowey

To clarify:

                   With the inevitable passing of time, both "Weech" and myself
                   have far more familial data to hand.  With the currently
                   available facts it is NOT impossible to work our our relationship.

                   As stated many times previously, myself not having the luxury
                   of the availability of broadband internet facilities, it's not possible
                   for me to download and utilise the complex relationsip calculator
                   that "Weech" has at his disposable.

                   Hence the question, which I can assure you, was not posed again
                   through a lapse of my memory, although you deemed it necessary
                   to point it out, as if it was, and in public, not privately, as per PM.

                   Secondly, "baitken" a newcomer to RootsChat has an even closer
                   relationship to myself, than mine to "Weech".

I thank you for your interest and post, but would have appreciated some constructive and positive input, not your putdown.

Cheers

Danchaslyn
MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa

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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #93 on: Friday 03 July 09 13:05 BST (UK) »
I wasn't putting you down but just pointing out that the question of your relationship to weech had already been discussed. If you haven't internet access then the old-fashioned way of figuring out the relationship with pen and paper would work. :)
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!


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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #94 on: Friday 03 July 09 13:11 BST (UK) »

 :)

MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa

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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #95 on: Friday 03 July 09 19:06 BST (UK) »
Danchaslyn-As I see it, my father's aunt was Caroline and he is therefore a first cousin of Baitken' father. This would make Baitken and myself second cousins. Your mother's uncle was Robert which would make her also a first cousin of Baitken's father. Similarly, you and Baitken are second cousins. So we are both related as second cousins to Baitken but not to each other. QED! The OED definition of a second cousin is the 'a child of one's parent's first cousin'. Does that make it clearer or have I confused things even more?

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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #96 on: Friday 03 July 09 22:18 BST (UK) »


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Hello Weech

I knew I could rely on you to bring crystal clear clarity, where previously it was akin to peering through opaque glass.

Whilst I agree, that both you and I are second cousins to "baitken", I still maintain that you and I, also are cousins, to which degree I do not know, and how many times removed, I do not yet know.

Rest assured, we shall find the answer!

Cheers

Danchaslyn

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MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa

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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #97 on: Sunday 05 July 09 16:11 BST (UK) »


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Hello baitken

You have posted in RC, Mid-Lothian, Grace Aitken, nee Tennant, with a small reference to the Kiddle family.  As I'm aware that Norah Jean Aitken, nee Kiddle was your maternal grandmother, and there is so much "Kiddle Information" on this thread, I'm hoping you will read this here.   ::)

Also, thank you for confirming you have a sister.  I had discovered that she is Elizabeth Aitken and is five years younger than you are.

Also, confirmation from yourself, as I thought, that John Ellis Aitken, was left in the care of his paternal grandparents, and although born in India, 1896, was taken to Scotland, and educated in West Linton, then Edinburgh, whilst living with John and Grace Aitken and his aunt, Elizabeth Aitken.

Was his sister, Margery Grace Aitken, b, India 1898, also brought to Scotland to live with her grandparents, aunt and brother, or was she brought up separately, in India?   ???

Cheers

Danchaslyn

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MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa

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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #98 on: Sunday 12 July 09 00:14 BST (UK) »


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Hi Carol8353

My goodness, again, how/why, a single English lady, of only 24, as she was b.1899, sails out alone to Bombay, India????!!!!

And, goodness again!!!! the River View address, do you think the whole Kiddle family could have been there then?    ???

Wonder if she went to meet John Ellis Aitken, as if she had already met him in England, or if she met him in India.     8)

It certainly is looking like they may have married in Bombay?  Also, surely in those days, age 24 someone would have been quite old, and still not married, even, if about to be married?    :(

Just thought of something, I wonder if he was on the same ship in 1923??!!!!   ::)

cheers

Danchaslyn


Per courtesy of baitken:

JOHN  ELLIS  AITKEN during WW1 was in the Sappers & Miners, and after the war, he was sent to St Ives, to be demobbed.  It was here he met Norah Kiddle, and later, after his return to India, they were married in India.

Cheers

Danchaslyn

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MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa