Re:Surname interests in Glamorgan.

[Welsh Jen]

Hi Welsh Jen, I have a Gwladis Charlet Evans who died 19 September 1968 who married Lewis Williams who died 24 March 1935. I have no idea when they married but their issue are: Florence Hilda Williams b 17 September 1908 Memhyt (should it be Merthyr) Tydfie Gelligaer ( Free BDMs) Vol 11a page 762.
Haydn died 1941 Palestine, killed in action  WW II
Ronald b 1915 Leslie  died at the of  age 2 or 3 yrs.
Kind Regards Tweedie

Hi Tweedie, yes the birth reference sounds like it should be Merthyr Tydfil. With regards to finding more information out on the family. I seems that the couple had their children between 1908 - 1915. The years 1905 - 1908 may be a good timeframe to start searching for Gwladis and Lewis' marriage if you still cannot find their marriage then broaden the years when searching.

There are a few Lewis Williams in the Gelligaer region in the 1901 census, but it will be quite costly to purchase credits to check all the likely candidates. You say Lewis died on 24th march 1935, do you have a rough age for Lewis?, if so you may be able to narrow down the search in the 1901 census:

Name Age Where Born Administrative County Civil Parish Occupation

Lewis Williams  1M Glamorgan Bedlinog Glamorgan Gelligaer   

Lewis Williams  2 Glamorgan Gelligaer Glamorgan Gelligaer   

Lewis Williams  10 Glamorgan Cardiff Glamorganshire Gelligaer
 
Lewis Williams  22 Glamorgan Dowlais Glamorgan Gelligaer Colliery Engine Driver

Lewis Williams  23 Glamorgan Merthyrmawr Glamorganshire Gelligaer Engine Fitter Above Ground
 
Lewis Williams  25 Glamorgan Gelligaer Glamorgan Gelligaer Coal Miner Hewer

Lewis Williams  49 Tir Y Capel Farm Glamorganshire Gelligaer Farmers Son

I found some entries for a Gwladys but I am unsure if these are likely candidates as I have used Gelligaer to narrow the search results:

Gwladys Evans  3M Glamorgan Bedlinog Glamorgan Gelligaer
   
Gwladys Evans  3 Glamorgan Bedlinog Glamorgan Gelligaer
   
Gwladys Evans  13 Glamorgan Gelligaer Glamorganshire Gelligaer Attending School

I would think if any the last one is the most likely candidate!

[tweedie]

Hi Welsh Jen,

Thank you so much for the lookup.  It will give me something to work on.

Kindest Regards
Tweedie

[Reyz]

Hi, My Glamorgan interests :

HOPE 
Sarah Ann - born  Jan 1851 in Nelson  Llanvabon = PROTHERO John
Mary Ann c 1849  b Llanvabon  /  Llanfabon
Emma c 1848  Llanvabon
Benjamin  b Merthyr Tydfil  1847-1868 no children
Emma Jane b 1871 Merthyr T  =  CAMPBELL Alexander 1868 Scotland

PROTHERO  / PROTHEROE
William John  1873 Merthyr Tydfil  =  DAVIES Matilda
John Prothero c1874?
David Prothero c?
Mary Ann aka Polly  1876 MT  =  WILLIAMS Benjamin
Elizabeth aka Lizzie  1879 MT  =  PUGH Richard
James aka Jim  c1880 MT - Ran a Colliery Choir
Sarah Ann 1885 MT
Thomas  1888 - 1919  =  FOSTER Sarah Jane
Ann  1890 - 1985 = SMITH David Charles

One of the girls died in a house fire along with her children.  The husband survived and remarried.
Possibly? Sarah?


Mary Anne JONES born  c 1862-67 Merthyr Tydfil    Father David JONES a Collier. 
Married in Llanelly Brecon in March 1884 aged 22. Husband Charles SMITH born c1860 in Blaenavon. His family owned 'The Goldiggers' and 'King David' in Brynmawr.

Reyz

[Welsh Jen]

Hi, My Glamorgan interests :
HOPE 
Sarah Ann - born  Jan 1851 in Nelson  Llanvabon = PROTHERO John

I found a Sarah Hope in the 1851 census in that area. Is this one yours?

2457 1851 CENSUS OF QUAKERS YARD ETC.(PART OF LLANFABON PARISH).  REF.H.O.107/2457 E.D.2C                                           

Piece: 2457      Folio: 162     Schedule: 158

Address: TRAMROAD HOUSES       

HOPE WILLIAM               HD M  25   SAWYER                   
                                      BRE HAY                          (c1826)
HOPE MARY                  WI M  25                             
                                      BRE HAY                          (c1826)
HOPE EMMA                  DA U   3                             
                                      GLA LLANFABON                    (c1848)
HOPE MARY ANN              DA -   2                             
                                      GLA LLANFABON                    (c1849)
HOPE SARAH                 DA -   1                             
                                      GLA LLANFABON                    (c1850)
& here is the above family in 1861:

Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD
4066 1861 CENSUS OF FFORCHAMAN (PART). REF.R.G.9/4066, E.D.18.                                                                       

Piece: 4066      Folio: 080     Schedule: 117

Address: CATHERINE ST.         

HOPE WILLIAM               HD M  36   SAWYER                   
                                      BRE LLANFRYNACH                  (c1825)
HOPE MARY                  WI M  33   -                         
                                      HER -                            (c1828)
HOPE BENJAMIN              SO U  12   SCHOLAR                   
                                      MON PONTYPOOL                    (c1849)
HOPE SARAH ANNE            DA U  10   SCHOLAR                   
                                      MON PONTYPOOL                    (c1851)

[Reyz]

Yes Jen thats my lot

Thanks a lot for that   
best wishes
Ryz

[DavisRees]

  Welsh Jen,  Hope your having a wonderful holidays. 

John Rees (Davies or Davis)
bn -  abt 1795 - Llanegwad, Carms.
died - 19 Feb 1855 - Llanarthney, Carmarthen, Wales

Mary Rees
bn - abt 1786 -  Abergwily, Carms.

They had 7 children and David Rees was the 7th. 
List of other brothers and sisters in the order that I have.
1) Mary (David) 2) John (David) 3) Eleanor (David) 4) George (David) 5) Elizabeth (David) 6) Daniel (Davies) 7) David Rees (Davies)

As you can see I have no idea as to the last name, it goes from Davies to Rees to David.  If i remember correctly I read the John worked in the mines.

David Rees (Davies)
bn - 19 Feb 1821  - Capel Dewi, Llanarthney, Carms., Wales
cr - 8 Apr 1821  -  Llanarthey, Carms.

Elizabeth Thomas - (daughter of William Thomas and Jane Jones)
bn -  16 Apr 1816 -  Fontygary, Penmark, Glamorganshire, Wales
cr -  12 May 1816 -  Penmark, Glamorganshire

David's 1st child
Edwin Davis (Rees)
bn - 16 Nov 1856 -  Abergwawd, Aberadere, Glamorganshire
died - 24 Nov 1856 - Abergwawd

David's 2nd child
David Rees (Davis)
bn - 1844  -  Aberadere, Glamorganshire

David's 3rd child
Emma Rees (Davis)
bn - 20 Aug 1851 - Merthyr Tydfil, Aberadere, Glamorganshire

I hope that this information can help.  I have a feeling that some of the dates may be wrong, but this is what I have to go by right now.  I appreciate all your help. 

DavisRees

Happy New Year, 2005

[Keith Sherwood]

My interest is in the family name Martin, particularly from the Bridgend area (Coity, Merthyr Mawr, Coychurch), and the surname now is extremely widespread across the British Isles - had a real problem sorting out which Thomas Martin was mine in the earliest, 1837-onwards GRO registers.
However, although there is a thriving Martin family history society, I have yet to come across anyone else tracing Glamorgan Martin's, or even Welsh Martin's for that matter.
But I HAVE found the Glamorgan Family History Society extremely helpful and obliging, and getting copies of early 18th/19C Wills from Aberystwyth has been very straightforward and rewarding matter - and very reasonable indeed.
Keith

[Jan1B]

My surname interests in Glamorgan are

COLES Cardiff and Caerphilly ,
BASSETT  Pendoylan ,Vale of Glamorgan
DAVIES  Gelligaer .



Jan

[Keith Sherwood]

I forgot to mention at the time that about 3 weeks after I posted my cry in the dark about no other MARTIN interest for Wales, a fellow Rootschatter contacted me off list with a large amount of information on MARTIN's he was tracing, though there was not an obvious connection - not yet, anyway.
That's what's so amazing about this website...
Keith
p.s. I learnt quite a bit about the woollen industry in the 18th C. in S.Glamorgan from the Martin wills I had copied and sent to me from Aberystwyth.  They called themselves "Tuckers", rather than "Fullers".