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Re:Surname interests in Glamorgan.
« on: Friday 12 March 04 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi there Ros

GRANDMOTHER; CLARICE DAVIES B 1920 MARRIED A THOMAS FORD-HORNE
GT GRANDFATHER ; TITUS DAVIES B CIRCA 1883 POSS CARDIGAN WALES MARRIED A MARGARET JANE WALL CIRCA 1901 SHE WAS BORN MERTHYA TYDFILL GLAMORGAN
THAT IS ABOUT ALL KNOW
THERE ARE VAROIUS BROTHERS AND SISTERS FOR BOTH GENERATIONS BUT NONE OF THESE HAVE BEEN VERIFYED SO I AM AT ALOSS WHAT TO DO
I HAVE BEEN ON FREE BMD AND 1881 CENSUS BUT IT SEEMS A VERY COMMON NAME AND THE LANGUAGE AND PLACE NAMES ARE HARDLY READABLE TO US FOREIGNERS HA AH
I AWAIT FOR REPLY


If Titus was born c1883 – he would be about 7 or 8 in the 1891 census.

I have just put Titus Davies in the 1891 census on line; it came back with 25 matches – of which there is only one 7year old born in Cardigan.  There is also a 7 year old born in Glamorgan and an 8 year old born in Carnarthenshire.

There are 9 people with the name Margaret Wall (but none with Margaret J Wall) in the 1891 census – and none with a birth place of Merthya Tydfill - assuming she is about the same age as Titus, there are two 7 year olds and one 9 year old.

Any further clues as to which Titus or Margaret it may be?

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Re:Surname interests in Glamorgan.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 March 04 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi there Ros

Have re-visited the people mentioned above on the 1891 census for Wales.

Unfortunately it has not thrown up any further proof that any of those mentioned could be your ancestors.

None of the Titus Davies found had a twin sister or siblings named Rebecca and Sarah.
Had another look for a Margaret Wall now we know her age to be nearer 11  - sorry there were non.

Up to now, I do not seem to be pressing the correct buttons; but possibly a letter to Cardigan College may bring forth some further details.

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Re:Surname interests in Glamorgan.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 March 04 18:08 GMT (UK) »
thank yoou again chris , i will try to find out some more info , i think i will have to go  right back to the begining and start from scratch and maybe send for a few certificates  so i can be 100% sure of all the details .
will come back once i know more
ros
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Re:Surname interests in Glamorgan.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 June 04 23:03 BST (UK) »
Jen
I noticed one of your interest names was Sellick.
I have got some way back tracing my Grandmothers line who moved from Tonypandy to Hereford sometime in the 1920s. But am stuck going back from her Grandfather who was  John Sellick born 1839 in Colaton Raleigh in 1839 (I think). He married (probably second wife ) Anna  Balson in 1874, and they had 4 children all born in Ystradafodwg (Tonypandy between 1875 and 1880). I wonder if this John Sellick crops up on any census earlier than 1881.
On the 1881 John Sellick appears as Jass. Sellick


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 June 04 09:48 BST (UK) »
Hello I have not got very far with this surname Here is all that I have on the name, the name itself married into my G-Grandmothers line of Hawes:
Robert Sillick was born 1854 in Cardiff Glamorganshire Wales.  He married Elizabeth Hawes Abt. March 1886 in Swansea, daughter of John Hawes and?  She was born 1854 in Swansea, South Wales, Glamorganshire.

More About Robert Sillick:
Address (Facts Pg): 1881, Lodger
Census: 1881, Neath Road, Clase, Glamorganshire
Namesake: 1881, on census as Sellick
Occupation: 1901, Plate Layer at tube works

More About Elizabeth Hawes:
Address (Facts Pg): 1881, Neath Road, The Clase, Glamorganshire
Language spoken: 1901 English and Welsh
Occupation: 1881, Housekeeper
Witness to Marriage: December 24, 1884, Witness to Brother John Hawes Marriage to Ann Evans
   
Children of Robert Sillick and Elizabeth Hawes are:
   2   i.   Harriet2 Sillick, born Abt. 1887 in Swansea, South Wales, Glamorganshire.
   3   ii.   Elizabeth Sillick, born Abt. 1889 in Swansea, South Wales, Glamorganshire.
   4   iii.   Robert Sillick, born Abt. 1892 in Swansea, South Wales, Glamorganshire.
   5   iv.   Adria Mary Sillick, born December 1893 in Swansea, South Wales, Glamorganshire.
   6   v.   Minie Sillick, born Abt. 1898 in Swansea, South Wales, Glamorganshire.
   7   vi.   Reginald Symmons Sillick, born June 1900 in Swansea, South Wales, Glamorganshire.

I will post after this post if there are any
Sellick and variants on the earlier Welsh census returns
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 June 04 09:51 BST (UK) »
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I noticed one of your interest names was Sellick.
I have got some way back tracing my Grandmothers line who moved from Tonypandy to Hereford sometime in the 1920s. But am stuck going back from her Grandfather who was  John Sellick born 1839 in Colaton Raleigh in 1839 (I think). He married (probably second wife ) Anna  Balson in 1874, and they had 4 children all born in Ystradafodwg (Tonypandy between 1875 and 1880). I wonder if this John Sellick crops up on any census earlier than 1881.
On the 1881 John Sellick appears as Jass. Sellick

There are no matches to the name on the 1841 Glamorgan Wales census

Here is one entry for this variation in the 1861 Glamorgan Wales census:
             Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD

4038 1861 CENSUS OF LLANDAFF. REF.R.G.9/4038, E.D.21.                                                                                

Piece: 4038      Folio: 011     Schedule: 084

Address: DIOCESAN REGISTRY      

HUCKWELL JOSEPH            HD M  56   DIST. REGISTR.PROBATE CRT.
                                      OXF STANDLAKE                    (c1805)
HUCKWELL CHARLOTTE         WI M  54   -                        
                                      GLA WHITCHURCH                   (c1807)
STEPHENS EDWARD            BL U  71   RETIRED SOLICITOR        
                                      GLA WHITCHURCH                   (c1790)
HUCKWELL CHARLOTTE SARAH   NC U   9   FARMERS DAUGHTER          
                                      GLA LLANEDARNE [LLANEDEYRN]      (c1852)
BEER ISABELLA M.           SV U  22   HOUSE SERVANT            
                                      GLA CARDIFF                      (c1839)
SILLICK PHILLIS            SV U  17   HOUSE SERVANT            
                                      SOM TAUNTON                      (c1844)
MILFORD ROBERT             SV M  38   GROOM & GARDENER          
                                      SOM PETTERSTONE  [?]             (c1823)
MILFORD ANN                SV M  36   COOK & DAIRYMAID          
                                      SOM BLEADON                      (c1825)


& this entry:
             Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD

4038 1861 CENSUS OF CANTON NORTH. REF.R.G.9/4038, E.D.22.                                                                            

Piece: 4038      Folio: 057     Schedule: 316

Address: SEVERN ROAD            

SELLICK CHARLES            HD M  41   LABOURER                  
                                      SOM ASH PRIORS                   (c1820)
SELLICK JANE               WI M  41   STAY MAKER                
                                      SOM BISHOP'S LYDEARD             (c1820)
SELLICK EMMA               DA -   8   SCHOLAR                  
                                      SOM BISHOP'S LYDEARD             (c1853)
YOUNG ANN                  CI U  24   DRESS MAKER              
                                      SOM BISHOP'S LYDEARD             (c1837)


             Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD

4105 1861 CENSUS OF SWANSEA UPPER. REF.R.G.9/4105, E.D.17.                                                                          

Piece: 4105      Folio: 045     Schedule: 185

Address: GREEN HILL ST.45      

LLOYD MARY                 HD W  62   GREEN GROCER              
                                      GLA SWANSEA                      (c1799)
SELLECH ELIZA              LG W  33   -                        
                                      GLA SWANSEA                      (c1828)
WILLIAMS MARGARET          SD M  27   -                        
                                      GLA SWANSEA                      (c1834)
SELECH EDWARD              LG U   6   -                        
                                      PEM HAVERFORDWEST                (c1855)
SELECH MARY JANE           LG -   4   -                        
                                      -   AT SEA                       (c1857)


& This last one (had to cut some of the entry due to the length of return, can give details if needed)
Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD
4042 1861 CENSUS OF ST.BRIDES-SUPER-ELY & CAPEL LLANILTERNE. REF.R.G.9/4042, E.D.1.                                                  

Piece: 4042      Folio: 002     Schedule: 003
Address: PALLA                                                                    
SELICK ANN                 SV U  19   NURSE[MAID]              
SOM TAUNTON                      (c1842)

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Re:Surname interests in Glamorgan.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 June 04 23:42 BST (UK) »
Greetings, I just found out about your site and was looking at the images that you had.  My inquire is about a Mr David Rees married to Elizabeth Thomas. David was born 19 Feb 1821 to a John and Mary Rees.  David and Elizabeth married 16 Feb 1846 Cardiff, Carms.  Any history you may know of  or whaere to turn would be much appriciated. ;D

Thank you,

Noel

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 July 04 11:01 BST (UK) »
Greetings, I just found out about your site and was looking at the images that you had.  My inquire is about a Mr David Rees married to Elizabeth Thomas. David was born 19 Feb 1821 to a John and Mary Rees.  David and Elizabeth married 16 Feb 1846 Cardiff, Carms.  Any history you may know of  or whaere to turn would be much appriciated. ;D
Thank you,Noel
Dear Noel Thank you for your posting. Due to the popular Surname of Rees. Is it possible for you to answer these questions to narrow down the search?

Where was David born in 1821?

What was John Rees (David's Father) occupation, at the time of David's birth?

You also list Cardiff in Carms. I know you may have typed this in error but Cardiff is in Glamorganshire, with some records held in Monmouthshire

If you can answer the above I may be able to help you more :D

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 October 04 06:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Welsh Jen,

I have a Gwladis Charlet Evans who died 19 September 1968 who married Lewis Williams who died 24 March 1935.
I have know idea when they married but their issue are:
Florence Hilda Williams b 17 September 1908 Memhyt       (should it be Merthyr) Tydfie Gelligaer ( Free BDMs) Vol 11a page 762.
Haydn died 1941 Palestine, killed in action  WW II
Ronald b 1915
Leslie  died at the of  age 2 or 3 yrs.

Kind Regards
Tweedie :)