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Re: Feakins/Payne
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 05 August 10 02:48 BST (UK) »
Well folks unfortunately I will be away in Australia for a month and will be back on 18th September. I will be able to pick emails but won't have time to do much.

I have a suggestion.

We have a lot of information on the Feakins family up to when they came to New Zealand and after.

I have quite a lot on the family of Horace and little bits on some of the others.

If one or two people would do each family descended from Jacob and Charlotte EG. Say two or more descendants from each family.

                      Catherine  (Bentley Payne)
                      Mary Ann   (Friend)
                      William       (Feakins)
                      John           (Feakins)
                      Horace       (Feakins)
                      Amy            (Gilbert)
Someone to track down the Methodist records would also be great.

When each group has the information we put it together in one database and give a copy to the New Plymouth library and one to the New Plymouth Genealogy group where it will be available to all family members in the future.

Our Feakins family is quite a significant Taranaki family  and this could be a worthwhile project.

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Re: Feakins/Payne
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 05 August 10 03:13 BST (UK) »
O Ted, you can't fool us, nothing at all unfortunate about a trip away. Enjoy you holiday and don't worry we won't solve all the answers while you are gone I am sure. Come back refreshed And we we see what can be done re your suggestions.
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MCINTYRE, TAYLOR, DUNCAN Skipness & NTHKnapdale
CAMPBELL,MCKINNON,MCDONALD ,Isle of Coll
MCINTYRE,CAMPBELL, Isle of Bute
MCMILLAN Rutherglen, Scotland
PERRIN, STEPHENS,PAYNE,FEAKINS,PREECE,DUDSON, Endland, Australia & New Zealand
BASON, Potterspury, England
MASON Potterspury England
HENSON, Potterspury England & New Zealand
WYBROW, England, Australia & New Zealand
WHITE Sri Lanka & new Zealand
TRAILL, America & New Zealand
MACGREGOR, LOCKHART, STEPHENSON,MCKELVIE, Scotland

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Re: Feakins/Payne
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 05 August 10 04:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for information that I can use to piece together my family tree.
 
[I will say my] Amy Bentley Payne [spelling aside] is my GGG grandmother, married Henry Beattie 15/04/1892 in Halcombe, NZ. 
They had 7 children:

Henry Arthur Beattie 1893-1936
Norman James Beattie 1895-1915
David Edward Beattie 1896-1918
Charles Herbert Beattie 1898-1982
Margaret Amy Beattie 1900-1989 Married name was Cadzow
Stanly William Beattie 1903-1903
Robert Douglas Beattie 1908-1964

Only one child had issue Henry Arthur Beattie

If any one has photo's of the family [Feakins/Payne, Payn] , I would love copies.

Thanks
Sandra


Sandra,
Thanks for this info.  I will change the marriage details I have for Amy.

Likewise I can share the photo's I have if you like just send me a personal message with your contact details.

Rgds
Brett
Payne, Payn, Bentley, Feakins, Upsall, Muir, Roguski, Salt, Harris, Le Grice, Mulhern, McBain

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Re: Feakins/Payne
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 07 August 10 04:10 BST (UK) »
Brett,

Do you have a copy of William Bentley Payne's death ? if not send email address via PM
MCINTYRE, TAYLOR, DUNCAN Skipness & NTHKnapdale
CAMPBELL,MCKINNON,MCDONALD ,Isle of Coll
MCINTYRE,CAMPBELL, Isle of Bute
MCMILLAN Rutherglen, Scotland
PERRIN, STEPHENS,PAYNE,FEAKINS,PREECE,DUDSON, Endland, Australia & New Zealand
BASON, Potterspury, England
MASON Potterspury England
HENSON, Potterspury England & New Zealand
WYBROW, England, Australia & New Zealand
WHITE Sri Lanka & new Zealand
TRAILL, America & New Zealand
MACGREGOR, LOCKHART, STEPHENSON,MCKELVIE, Scotland


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Re: Feakins/Payne
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 07 August 10 09:25 BST (UK) »
Some further information about Amy Payne

Amy married Henry Beattie [1st husband], then when he died she remarried - Henry Hyett Bonnewell.  I have copies of the marriage certificate for both marriages if anyone is interested in a copy.

Sandra

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Re: Feakins/Payne
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 07 August 10 21:51 BST (UK) »
Yes please, you have my email address from photos I sent.

MCINTYRE, TAYLOR, DUNCAN Skipness & NTHKnapdale
CAMPBELL,MCKINNON,MCDONALD ,Isle of Coll
MCINTYRE,CAMPBELL, Isle of Bute
MCMILLAN Rutherglen, Scotland
PERRIN, STEPHENS,PAYNE,FEAKINS,PREECE,DUDSON, Endland, Australia & New Zealand
BASON, Potterspury, England
MASON Potterspury England
HENSON, Potterspury England & New Zealand
WYBROW, England, Australia & New Zealand
WHITE Sri Lanka & new Zealand
TRAILL, America & New Zealand
MACGREGOR, LOCKHART, STEPHENSON,MCKELVIE, Scotland

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Re: Feakins/Payne
« Reply #51 on: Sunday 08 August 10 06:26 BST (UK) »
I spent a few hours researching the ship Helen Denny that the Payn(e), Feakins and Friend families came to NZ on.  Below is the text of a document I put together.  The document is also available as a PDF file with a couple of photos of the ship:
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The Helen Denny made at least two voyages to Napier, the first arrival was on the 22nd of October in 1874 and the second was in 1875.  Our families came on the second voyage arriving on 20th September 1875.

The shipping register and passenger list transcription can be found at http://www.yesteryears.co.nz/shipping/passlists/helendenny.html and the details regarding our families are noted below.

A pretty little vessel that brought many hundreds of passengers to all parts of the Dominion from 1875 until 1896, was the Glasgow built ship, Helen Denny, one of the Shaw, Savill fleet. She was built as a fully rigged ship built in 1866 by Robert Duncan, Port Glasgow.  Dimensions 187ft 5in x 31ft 2in x 19ft 1in.

When launched in November 1866 she was first owned by Patrick Henderson & Co., Glasgow.  Shaw Savill & Co purchased the Helen Denny in 1872 for the New Zealand Immigrant Trade.  She is recorded as making a voyage to Napier in 1874 and was then converted to a Barque rig before her next voyage in 1875. 

Although only 728 tons she had a fairly good turn of speed and made many passages between London and the several New Zealand ports, considerably below the average, under a fine old sailor, Captain William Ruthe.

She sailed on the 26th of June 1875 from London to Hawkes Bay carrying 244 passengers on this 85 day voyage (which was a fast trip) under the command of Captain William Ruthe.

 The names of the passengers that are most important to us are:
 
Families:
Feakins, Jacob, 50
Feakins, Charlotte, 50
Feakins, Charlotte, 13, Trans. to Single W.

Friend, James, 45
Friend, Mary A., 33
Friend, John, 2

Payn, William, 33
Payn, Catherine, 28
Payn, Eliza, 10
Payn, James W., 7
Payn, George, 5
Payn, Amy, 9m

Single Men:
Feakins, Horace, 16
Feakins/Teakins, Charles, 13

Single Women:
Teakins, Amy, 20
 

The list on the website was transcribed from LDS Film #0287450 and the entries for "Teakins" are clearly transcription errors.

Note that the spelling for Payn is still without an "e".

The Helen Denny went on to make numerous voyages between London and many New Zealand ports.  One such voyage found her in Honolulu in 1894 when plague struck.  One crew member died following her departure and she was quarantined at her next port of call.  She was sold in 1896 to Messrs. Turnbull & Co., Christchurch and later, in 1900, to Capt. F Holm. She continued to run regularly in the inter-colonial trade between New Zealand, Australia and around the Pacific through 1913. She was sold finally in 1912 to the Paparoa Coal Co. where she was converted into a coal hulk at Lyttleton.  She was towed to Auckland in 1946 before finally being towed out to sea and scuttled in 1948.

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Sources:   http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Ships/Merchant/Sail/H/Helen_Denny(1866).html
  http://www.yesteryears.co.nz/shipping/passlisth.html
Payne, Payn, Bentley, Feakins, Upsall, Muir, Roguski, Salt, Harris, Le Grice, Mulhern, McBain

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Re: Feakins/Payne
« Reply #52 on: Sunday 08 August 10 07:29 BST (UK) »
The original ship's manifest is on the FamilySearch pilot website,the passengers are in alphabetical order and yes the Feakins are before the Friends,it is well worth a look,it gives the cost to the government and cost to the individuals



http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1609792

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Re: Feakins/Payne
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 08 August 10 12:29 BST (UK) »
Have I missed something. I have not found a Charles anywhere else in family records. I have thought there possibly was a Charles Teakins amongst the single men and his name in the passenger list was the reason for the mistake in Amy's surname.

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