Feakins/Payne Completed

[croptop]

I got a notification through my automated google search re:
Title: Feakins/Payne
Post by: Mackiwi on Wednesday 25 March 09 21:38 GMT (UK)
Looking for information on Catherine Payne nee Feakins & hubby William Bulley Payne.
Mackiwi 

And later in the thread:
Post by: Eyesee on Saturday 28 March 09 20:45 GMT (UK)
Surname was BENTLEY, Catherine was born Lenham, Kent from memory. Found the FEAKINS family in 1861 where Catherine was was born Lenham.


Well my Great Great Great Grandmother was Charlotte Feakins b1802 in Lenham, Kent, England - Also recorded in some censuses as "Little Chart".

Possibly your relatives Aunt?  Though this is just an idea.  Let me know is any interest or relavence.

Regards

Martin Collins
Bexhill on Sea, East Sussex

[TedD]

As far as the Feakins family is concerned there have been many misspellings in the recorded BDMs etc Horace has been spelled Harris. Bentley Payne has been spelled Bully/Bulley (or similar) Payne and many of the family have recorded as being the children of their aunty. Horace has been named Horace Henry who was actually the baby son of Horace Feakins and Mary Ann Rogers.
I have been fortunate to have had two family bibles and the Feakins entries are as follows:
Jacob Feakins                                           Charlotte Feakins
B: 24-1-1820                                            B:7-4-1820
D:14-7-1902 Aitkenhead Taranaki          D: 7-12-1907 Stratford

Mary Ann             Catherine                   John                         William
B;14-1-1842        B:25-8-1848               B: 29-9-1849           B: 19-10-1851
R:Hollingbourne   R: Lenham                  R:Eastchurch           R:Eastchurch

Amy                      Elyzer                         Horace                Charlotte
B:5-11-1854         24-1-1857                  B: 7-3-1859        B:29-2-1862
R:Grain Island       R:Lenham                  R: Lenham           R:Minster Sheppy
                                                                                           CH:Eastchurch
Kate's children
Eliza Bentley Payne  James William Bentley Payne  George Bentley Payne
B:6-10-1865             B:3-12-1867                            25-9-1870
R: Sittingbourne       R: Sittingbourne                      R: Sittingbourne

I have been very careful to spell these entries exactly as in the bible but even here we think Elyzer should be Eliza.

The entries show the movements of the Feakins family across Kent and My wife and myself have followed these paths from Lenham to the islands of Grain and Sheppy in the Firth of Thames In some cases they were say registered in Lenham or Hollingbourne but these are the registry office or parish and they lived and worked in nearby villages.

Jacob's father Jacob is registered a died in Lenham which I think is the parish because I found an entry for his death in the workhouse in Hollingboune which is just up the road. The workhouse had just been demolished to build a big new home when we saw it but the little mortuary still stands in the field.

I hope this is of interest to the Bentley Payne and Feakins families I have many family photos and Photos taken around Lenham and one of the wee mortuary I think the last place Jacob's father visited. I am just a nut for photos but it's fun.

[TedD]

See even I Got Amy's Birth year wrong until I checked again

[Mackiwi]

Greetings  Martin,
Was your Charlotte Feakins b. 1802 the daughter of John Feakins(Fekins) and Catherine Evans ? Our families both come from the same area so it is more then likely they are connected. I have Robert Evans, Thomas Judith and Jacob as their children, but some siblings could be missing.

Firstupau & sanz1,

Your information matches mine, although I have not been able to find my Amy Payne's marriage, you may have the answer I am looking for.

TedD
No worries, we can't be perfect all the time, at least you picked up the error
Mackiwi

[Mackiwi]

If anyone is interested, I have collected Feakins in Kent area 1841 to 1911. May not be everyone but I was concentrating on Jacob's family and collected a few extras. Also have other bits and pieces all in a word document and have to send a copy.

Mackiwi

[Firstupau]

Hi Everyone,

I apologise but I have not found a Beattie link but doesn't mean there isn't one.

Ted thanks for your information.  I will double check my public listing on MyHeritage and Ancestry for accuracy as per your family bible source.

As I studied the Bentley and Payn lists I came to realise that these people migrated over a REALLY small area around Lenham.  One consistency is that their surname is always spelled Payn in the Census.  If you cast a little more widely within Kent you find Paynes but they are not the same family.  They also tended to stay in the same locale for example William Bully always lived in the same house in Sheppey according to the census.  Their children might venture to the next village and that is how we get family in Eastchurch, the Isle of Grain and down into Lenham where they meet up with the Feakins family.

I too like the photos and also like Google Street View and Google Earth for modern day views.

BTW Ted, my mother Maureen in New Plymouth says hello and explained how the Feakins and early Payne photos I have came most likely from your collection.

I will be back when I learn or confirm something new.  I need to order the NZ death certificates for William Bentley and his wife too.  It will confirm a few 99% certainties that I have.

Regards, Brett Payne

[sanz1]

Thank you all for information that I can use to piece together my family tree.
 
[I will say my] Amy Bentley Payne [spelling aside] is my GGG grandmother, married Henry Beattie 15/04/1892 in Halcombe, NZ. 
They had 7 children:

Henry Arthur Beattie 1893-1936
Norman James Beattie 1895-1915
David Edward Beattie 1896-1918
Charles Herbert Beattie 1898-1982
Margaret Amy Beattie 1900-1989 Married name was Cadzow
Stanly William Beattie 1903-1903
Robert Douglas Beattie 1908-1964

Only one child had issue Henry Arthur Beattie

If any one has photo's of the family [Feakins/Payne, Payn] , I would love copies.

Thanks
Sandra

[Mackiwi]

Sandra, If you P M me your email address I can send you a few photos.

[TedD]

For those looking for Feakins family burial sites I think we should start at the beginning which is the story of Primitive Methodist churches in Taranaki. This family were staunch Primitive Methodists and I would think they would not be buried other than the grounds of their church. Both Jacob and Charlotte were listed as Buried in Bell Block Cemetery. The Primitive Methodist Church was erected in 1850 at Bell Block and seated 100, Quite a substantial building. What happened to it and where was it sited on the property?
Did it burn down or was it demolished? What happened to the church records?
Are they held in the Methodist Church archives?

Somewhere back in the 1900s I was researching the Rogers family and had an address to write to for Methodist records but when driving through Bell Block we came across the graves of William Rogers and his wife Eliza Scandlyn which we had been hunting for. Badly damaged and tucked away in the corner of an empty section on the corner of Mangati Road. Was going to get permission to restore this grave but a new church popped up on the same property and the grave was restored. I then ceased to follow up on finding the records until now this Feakins family have surfaced and they are buried in the same cemetery.

Does anyone know where the old records are and can we access them or were they destroyed with the church?