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Burnt WW1 records
« on: Wednesday 25 March 09 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone know whether copying of these are now complete? Also is there any index as to which sections might be missing? I am trying to trace the name Weakner but get nothing at the moment. Many thanks for any help
Michael

Researching:
Noble, Keen, Dove, Sodo & Houghton (East London)
Weakner (Anywhere)
Stobbs, Wood, Farrow, Cunningham, Johnson (Durham & South Shields area)
Findlay, Milne, (Forfar, Montrose, US, Australia)
Mumford (Herts and East London)
Giles (Woolwich)
Crosby (Fenland area)
Researching:
Noble, Keen, Cole, Sodo and Houghton (East London)
Weakner (Anywhere)
Stobbs, Wood, Farrow, Cunningham (Durham and South Shields area)
Findlay, Milne (Forfar and Montrose area, Kent)
Mumford (Herts and E London)
Giles (Woolwich)
Crosby (Fenland area)

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Re: Burnt WW1 records
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Micahel,
As far as I can see this seems to be the latest information with regard to ancestry.co.uk.
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/home/new.aspx
Not quite sure what the situation is with The National Archives - I will try to find out.
Kind regards,
Paulene :)

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Re: Burnt WW1 records
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,
It would seem, looking at this information, that the National Archives records are complete for what has survived, Michael.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-gb%3AIE-SearchBox&q=ww1+army+records+-+are+all+records+online+now+-+uk+national+archives

Hope this helps, - hopefully someone else will come long who can confirm this.
Hope you find him!
Paulene :)

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Re: Burnt WW1 records
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 26 March 09 11:33 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Paulene. I will keep trying.

While writing, can anyone tell me why the person I am looking for would have two army numbers? - he was in the RFA and a lead rider on a gun carriage - I would really love to find out more about his career in the army
Michael
Researching:
Noble, Keen, Cole, Sodo and Houghton (East London)
Weakner (Anywhere)
Stobbs, Wood, Farrow, Cunningham (Durham and South Shields area)
Findlay, Milne (Forfar and Montrose area, Kent)
Mumford (Herts and E London)
Giles (Woolwich)
Crosby (Fenland area)


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Re: Burnt WW1 records
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 26 March 09 19:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Michael,
This will explain it for you:
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=34030
Good luck with your research.
Paulene :)

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Re: Burnt WW1 records
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 April 09 05:41 BST (UK) »
Michael

If you live close to a LDS  Family History Centre. They have the Burnt Records of the British Army WW1.

I have edited this from the search for you entering by "British Army" on the LDS site:Title search by title
British Army 
Military records of the British Army, 1914-1920 (surnames A-E) :  Great Britain. War Office

Military records of the British Army, 1914-1920 (surnames F)  Great Britain. War Office

Military records of the British Army, 1914-1920 (surnames G-I) :  Great Britain. War Office

Military records of the British Army, 1914-1920 (surnames J-K) :  Great Britain. War Office

Military records of the British Army, 1914-1920 (surnames L-M) :  Great Britain. War Office

Military records of the British Army, 1914-1920 (surnames N-O, Q) :  Great Britain. War Office

Military records of the British Army, 1914-1920 (surnames P) :  Great Britain. War Office

Military records of the British Army, 1914-1920 (surnames R)  Great Britain. War Office

Military records of the British Army, 1914-1920 (surnames S)  Great Britain. War Office

Military records of the British Army, 1914-1920 (surnames T)  Great Britain. War Office

Military records of the British Army, 1914-1920 (surnames U-Z)  Great Britain. War Office

As you probably know these records only represent just a small proportion of the total Records rescued. I have it on good authority that a lot of the S's survived.
Good luck,
Pat
p.s.
Family History Main Search Page
Blue Drop down Menu select " Library Catalogue"
Title Search: Enter "British Army",
From these Titles look at the British Army Military Records, say "S"
Select this and the then upper top right corner select view film notes.
You will then get a a range of  1-100 of 3371 Burnt Records in the "S" range. ( this is the same as the ranges in the NA)
Just work your way through until you get the range that cover your soldier, for example names beginning with Sy will be towards the end of 3371.
Ask the LDS centre to get the film for you. Sometimes common names will be over a range of names, so you will need more than one film.

For your names up to "N" these are on Ancestry, but who knows when they will list the remainder.

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Re: Burnt WW1 records
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 April 09 06:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Michael,
I'm also interested in seeing the burnt WW1 files.
May I ask PK2 how to access them from the LDS web site, please?

I also have lots of NOBLES, mostly in Australia, but prior to that they're all from Durham & Yorkshire.
I have a Mary STOBBS, b. 1774, Tanfield, Durham.  Father,  John STOBBS. She married into my WALTON line.

We may have some connection here.
Leonie.
Direct matriarchal line; ENNIS-Yeatman-Cooper-Papps-Ryland-Lechford/Luxford-Bagshaw-Henriett
ENNIS-Thomas-Bonnin-Aldridge-Williams-Harding-Brown.
ENNIS-Davis/Davies-Buck-Oakley-
JONES-Roberts-Handy-Ross-Warrillow-Eagles-Cotterill-Bailey.
JONES-Walton-Grayson-Stobbs-Baldwin-Ibbotson-Scott.
JONES-Goodwin-Parker-Instant-Hubbard-Hancock-Skinner.

STILL LOOKING FOR: Elizabeth Ann Balfour ENNIS nee DAVIS. Disappeared in Adelaide, South Australia. 1881.

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Re: Burnt WW1 records
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 April 09 06:30 BST (UK) »

I'm also interested in seeing the burnt WW1 files.
May I ask PK2 how to access them from the LDS web site, please?


You have to go to a LDS centre or to Kew to access the microfilms. The only online access to WW1 Service Records is Ancestry. As mentioned in Paulene's link, they have published only the A to Ns in the Service Records. The last batch was put online in early November 2008.

They are taken from the microfilms (WO363 in Kew). Any records already online, for men with surname starting O to Z, are miss-files from the microfilming. It follows that a few A to Ns are still to be found.


Ken


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Re: Burnt WW1 records
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 April 09 15:12 BST (UK) »
William Weakner, Driver 1485 and 765175 was a Territorial.
I don't have access to his MIC but he went overseas prior to early 1917.
In early 1917 six figure numbers were introduced for the Territorials.

His six figure number is one of a batch allotted to 253 Brigade (1/4 Northumbrian) and 318 Brigade (2/4 Northumbrian). 253 Bde was broken up in July 1916, however and 318 Bde was renumbered 223 Bde in July 1916. Both were Howitzer Brigades.

http://www.1914-1918.net/cra.htm

Prior to the war 4th Northumbrian (Howitzer) Brigade HQ was at Bolingbroke St, South Shields.

Unfortunately, the later the date, the more men have been moved around, so although the numbers indicate his origins, they do not necessarily indicate his movements.

Phil

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