Memories of the lanes

[emmsthheight]

Hi again

From the Carlisle History pages:

1818, Jackson and Graham cotton mill, Water Lane, 6 stories!


http://www.carlislehistory.co.uk/carlislehistoryj.html

Emms

[emmsthheight]

Hi

Also on Carlisle History, page linked below:  Mentions an explosion of the Gasometer on Water Lane.  Same area as used recently for gas?  Same Water Lane?  1826!

http://www.carlislehistory.co.uk/carlislehistoryg.html

Emms

[bobgraham]

In the pub lists, there are a couple of pubs listed in water lane. But it can't be where the modern gasometwers were - they were nowhere near English st or St Cuthberts - but they were near the river Caldew!  MMMM!
bob

[emmsthheight]

Hi  There's a brewery on one of those pages too, which I would have thought would have used water.

I'm not sure here.  There's St Cuthbert's Parish and that went on for miles, depending on the date.  More research required!

I'll see what else I've got.

I also looked for Blackwell Lane, and I can't see one on St Nicholas.  There's not much called Blackwell Rd though.  Could that have started life as Blackwell Lane?

Best wishes

Emms

[emmsthheight]

Hi

No Water Lane yet, but I've found John Wood's 1821 Map - before the railway - or a piece of it anyway.

He has Water Street and Water Gate Lane.  How to explain?  It all looked different!

If you think English SDtreet carried on to the top of Botchergate, before the cutting was made to go over the railway, when you get infront of where the station os now, The Crescent was then Court Crescent, and that had almost another half circle facing it where the station forecourt is now.

on the left, Collier's Lane still cuts through the hotel, parapllel to Botchergate.  Where that opens onto Court Square, a street, Water Street, carries on straight through the Station.  In fact I wonder if the first few yards are what goes acriss the lights from the Crescent to the station now.

It goes straight through and comes onto Water Gate Lane which looks as if it runs in front of the modern Matalan etc and Brown's Row - Old Cottages still standing?  - and sout out of town.  It starts at Caldew Brow.

You could also contintue from the end of the named Water Street across Water Gate Lane and over the river thento the left along the river to Long Island Cotton Factory.  This unnamed bit just dotted.  Wayer Lane?

Could Water Street have been along the exit of Matalan and over into Boustead's?  There's a Bridge there.  Too far down?

As for Water Lane, is this a red herring, or getting warmer?!?

Good Luck!

Emms

[bobgraham]

Water st still exists behind Matalan and staples and runs into a dead end at the railway and ends at the mini roundablout opposite rome st (which is where the gasometers were!). I think you've cracked it emms. What if all that from the courts to the river was just water lane at one time? That would allow for the mill, brewery, pubs, housing!  I'll stop and look over that bridge at the weekend when I go to the tip. I always assumed it was railway.
bob

[emmsthheight]

Hi Bob

So it is that one, then.  I knew I'd seen that somewhere on a sign.  I haven't got the right sheet for the next map after the railway was built - or I've misfiled it!

I wonder if Water Street was diverted slightly when they built the railway?  It must bend round from what you say.  Or I wonder if it joined Water Gate Lane in the hidden bit somewhere and that just became Water Lane then Water Street?  I must get to see the next map!

I think I've got a photo with  story of the old gasometers somewhere.  I'll see what else I can find.  Let us know what you find on the lanee!

Emms

[emmsthheight]

Hi again

Thinking about it, maybe they didn't divert it.

Water Street seems to go across Water Gate Lane, but actually it's an oblique cross, and they could just have made those two the main road and taken it around a bend, and called it Water Lane.   

The railway swings round when I think about it.  Could this be the bit that goes along the front short stay car park and into the long stay one?  I think I onece noticed a sign there on the wall as if it was a thoroughfare of some sort, which puzzled me.

And of course we have gasometers and so it's probably not a red herring!

I'd like to see the name in black and white though!

Best wishes

Emms

[emmsthheight]

Hi

Just remembering the little junction where you come out of the station car park onto Collier Lane.  I think that may be where  Water St branched off.  It goes almost right into the wall of the station.

Emms