Memories of the lanes

[july]

I have just read an interesting book about the lanes of carlisle, but there was no mention of the lanes where my ancesters were living.

The lanes i am looking for are, Blackwell lane, St nicholas st, Water lane English st, does this mean water lane off english st as this is how it is written on the birth certificate, on another certificate i have Water lane st cuthbert, english st a bit confusing.

Would these lanes have been in a better area of Carlisle for people who had a profession my ancesters were working on the railways

July

[bobgraham]

Geoff is going to better at this than me BUT "The Lanes" , now a posh shopping precinct were the lowest of the low.  What worries me (and here is where I need Geoff's help cos he's good on these ancient maps)  is none of these names gell with the modern "lanes". They are on the "Scotch st." side of town and the St. Nicholas, Water lane English st are on the other!
HELP Geoff.
July, I promise we'll get there (Won't we Geoff?)
bob

[GeoffE]

Thanks for the buildup Bob, I don't know Carlisle at all

St Nicholas St - http://tinyurl.com/cuxmac

"ENGLISH STREET, a township in the parish of Carlisle St. Cuthbert, city of Carlisle, county Cumberland."

[bobgraham]

No but you're good at them old maps! Come to think of it there is still some  lanes off English st at the side of M & S and there is a Blackwell Rd to the south not too far from St. Nicholas.  And st cuthbert is the parish church covering english st.
bob

[bingorudd]

hi july

in october 20th 2008 news and star paper there was a 1899 map of some of the old lanes. you could write to the news paper who have an office on the corner of bank street just a few yards from where the old lanes were   

janet

[july]

Thank you for your replies i will write to the newspaper to see if they can shed some light on this
July

[bobgraham]

Forgot to check on Saturday when I was sent for the shopping so went today specially. There is no Water lane but there are 2 unnamed lanes off English st so it could have been one of them.
bob

[emmsthheight]

Hi July, Bob, Goeff

Yes, I was looking at those two lanes a few days ago and I thought if I got my old map sheets out, I'd be able to name them, but sure enough, no name on the map either.

Even so, for Water Lane, would it be too far away to be in the old houses that have gone, down by the river?  Was it Engliush Street itself or just that area I wonder?  I wonder if it's on a census?

I'll try looking"!

Emms

[emmsthheight]

A few here - Steve Bulman's site, 1811 Principle Inhabitants of Carlisle.

I haven't seen this bit before.  It's great.

A coup[e say "Water Lane, Botchergate and English St" though, so is it at the top p of Botchergate or behind the station - or under it?  The street my ggg grandmother died in is under a platform at Euston Station!

Emms

http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/cumbria/jollie_carlisle_f.html