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North Dalton. Bainton - Kirkburn
« on: Monday 23 March 09 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone know how close West End, North Dalton is to The Wold, North Dalton, I can't find it on the map.  I have just obtained two census forms for different parts of the family and found that they were in North Dalton at the same time.  Was there a school in North Dalton in 1871? 

For the same area, was there a school in Bainton around 1830 as the father of one family and the mother of the other were both born in Bainton with only three or four years separating them.  I wondered where they would have gone to school.

Was there also a school in Kirkburn around 1835, the other parents came from here, both born within a year of each other.

Any information would be good.

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Re: North Dalton. Bainton - Kirkburn
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 20:44 GMT (UK) »
I have had a look at several maps

1890's and modern

There is a school in North Dalton around 1895

I have access through work to detailed maps of the area, as far as I can see no street is called West End, however although no streets are called East End or South End. I can find postal addresses for both South and East End

See map that follows

The street highlighted in yellow is Main Street
Where it changes to blue the addresses are given as East End, Main Street
Where the pink is, the address is given as South End.

Above South End is the Mere, the school is located in the square just above
I wonder if this was known as West End

If you look at the census forms is there any references to Public Houses or Blacksmiths shops, this may help in narrowing down the location

What is the census reference
I couldn't find The Wold but did find a Wold Farm and a Wold cottage

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Re: North Dalton. Bainton - Kirkburn
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 19:45 GMT (UK) »
The census form for North Dalton that mentions The Wold doesn't mention any other addresses.  There are three families marked on the 1871 census (reference RG10/4808 page 19), the families are Witty, Rispin and Grubb, all the occupations are marked as farmers of some description.

The other census form, also for 1871 for North Dalton mentions West End and The Village.  The families mentioned on that are the Yorke family at The Village, and the Ransom family at West End who were tailors.  The census reference is also RG10/4808 page 14.

If there wasn't a school in North Dalton until 1895 I wonder where would the children from North Dalton and the surrounding villages would have gone to school at the time of the 1871 census? 

Thanks for the map, I don't live in that area any more but am looking forward to visiting some of the villages and would love to locate some of the places where the family lived, but if West End refers to an area of the village I probably wouldn't be able to identify where they lived.

Thanks
MiniT
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Re: North Dalton. Bainton - Kirkburn
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 21:44 GMT (UK) »
What I was saying was a school existed in 1895, it could have been there before that date, apologises for the confusion

Will have a look at the records tomorrow

Steve
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Re: North Dalton. Bainton - Kirkburn
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 22:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that.  Its much appreciated.
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Re: North Dalton. Bainton - Kirkburn
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 March 09 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Had a look at the village of North Dalton 1871 today
Thought it may be possible to trace the enumerators route, but looks rather difficult

There is a school in 1871, at least Joseph Brigham, schoolmaster is living at the school house with his wife, son and a daughter, complete with servant

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Re: North Dalton. Bainton - Kirkburn
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi MiniT
Did you find out where West End is? My mother (born in N. Dalton) calls the first part of Huggate Road, West End. I have many connections with North Dalton, Bainton & Kirkburn. Do you still have the map someone sent you as I am looking for South End.
Judith

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Re: North Dalton. Bainton - Kirkburn
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 February 10 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi MiniT
Did you find out where West End is? My mother (born in N. Dalton) calls the first part of Huggate Road, West End. I have many connections with North Dalton, Bainton & Kirkburn. Do you still have the map someone sent you as I am looking for South End.
Judith
I haven't used this site for a while so will have to re-learn what to do.  I didn't realise that everyone doesn't see the map that was sent to me so I will put it back on the site if I can.  I visited North Dalton after receiving that map, I had a bad back that day so if anyone from North Dalton saw a strange woman hobble the whole length of the village checking out all the houses last springtime, it was me.  It is an absolutely charming village.  I found out that my mother in law and father in law both had connections with the village and looking into both their family trees I found they shared the same ancestors many generations ago, also in the same villages as you - Kirkburn and Bainton.  I guess if we go back far enough we are all related.  There were also connections to the Star Inn in 1861.
Mary

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Re: North Dalton. Bainton - Kirkburn
« Reply #8 on: Friday 12 February 10 18:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your reply and map. I didn't see the map  on the site when I posted but did see it after posting. I see there are 2 now. I see one of your surnames of research is Noble. This name is on our tree but through marriage, not a direct line. Hope you found West End on your search through Dalton.