Help with SA lookup please - JONES

[elsie ellen]

Hi everyone!

Edgar Arnold JONES was born circa 1895 in South Australia. According to his Army Records, his father's name is John Edwin JONES and he was living in Blinman in 1916 when his son enlisted.

I would appreciate help to find any BD&M information for John Edwin Jones and his family. Would there be any chance of his being mentioned in the BISA?

With a smile 

Elsie

[krisesjoint]

Hi Elsie,

JONES Edgar Arnold was born 10 Dec 1894 Kent Town Dist Nor 555 151 parents John Edwin Jones and Susannah Maria Miller

Siblings

Edwin Melrose 21 Dec 1884 Yednalue Head Station Dist Fro 342 349
Arthur Oliver 9 Jul 1888 Pt Germain Dist Fro 421 425
Gilbert Richard 20 July 1892 Melrose Dist Fro 505 70

JONES John Edwin 27 Single father John = MILLER Susanna Maria 21 Single father 19 Feb 1884 Samuel Miller Res of Mr Meller Pt Germain Dist fro 138 675

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

BISA

JONES John Edwin b 25 Nov 1856 died 24 May 1938 bd Magill Occ Carrier Res Crystal Brook, Kengington, Kent Town, Norwood Married 19 Feb 1884 SA

Here is his birth

JONES John Edwin was born 25 Nov 1856 Kensington Dist Ade parents John Jones and Caroline Roberts

Siblings

Thomas Herbert 3 Oct 1851 Not Recorded Dist Ade 3 286 (Mother listed as Caroline Jane)
Caroline Jane 13 Mar 1853 Not Recorded Dist Ade 4 125 (Mother listed as Caroline Jane)
Frances Elizabeth 10 Oct 1854 Kensisngton Dist Ade 5 55 (Mother listed as Caroline Jane)

No marriage in SA

BISA

JONES John father John b c1825 d 23 Apr 1882 Magill SA arr by 1878 res Kensington rel: C/E
m Caroline Jane b 12 Oct 1825 d 2 Feb 1912

Cheers Kris 

[elsie ellen]

Hello Kris!

Just arrived home to find you have posted this wonderful information about the JONES family for me.    Thank you very much.

If it's not asking too much, would it be possible to trace any information about his wife, Susannah Maria MILLER and her family as well? You have identified Susanna's father as being Samuel MILLER.

With a smile

Elsie

[krisesjoint]

Hi Elsie,

Sorry not seeing it. Best I can do is

Deaths

MILLER Samuel 9 Jun 1908  aged 86 years Pt Germain Dist Fro 334 68 Res Pt Germein, married rel not recorded

MILLER Ann Maria 25 Mar 1917 aged 87 years Pt Germein Dist Fro 410 189 widow rel Samuel Miller deceased husband

Looks like there was a son Thomas also died 1952 aged 86

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Births to Samuel MILLER and Ann Maria CLIFT

William 8 Jun 1853 McLaren Vale Dist Ade 4 164
Elizabeth 27 Mar 1855 Unrecorded Dist  Ade 5 134
James 8 Mar 1857 McLaren Vale Dist Wil 12 60
John 7 Jan 1858 McLaren Vale Dist Wil 13 88
Alice Ann 16 Feb 1860 McLaren Vale Dist Wil 18 477
Emma Jane 23 Jan 1864 McLaren Vale Dist Wil 30 420
Thomas 16 Nov 1865 McLaren Vale Dist Wil 39 254
George 21 Nov 1867 McLaren Vale Dist Wil 59 542
Eleanor Mary 6 Jan 1870 Grace Plains Dist PtG 79 463
Minnie Grace 15 Jun 1872 Grace Plains Dist PtG 110 366

MILLER Samuel 23 single father unrecorded = CLIFT Ann Maria 23 Single father unrecorded 17 Sep 1852 Church Willunga Dist Ade 13 261

Sorry no sign of Susanna

Kris 

[krisesjoint]

BISA

MILLER Samuel born c1822 died 10 Jun 1908 buried Pt Germein SA arr by 1854 occ Farmer, Publican res McLaren Vale, Pt Germein rel C/E
m: Ann Maria nee THOMSON* born c1828 d 1917 Ch Wm (1854-), Saml (1856-), Jas (c1857-), John (c1858-), Ann (c1860-), Susannah Maria (1862-), Emma Jane (1864-), Thos (1865-), Gus (1867-)

Kris 

[elsie ellen]

Kris...thank you again for this information. 

And to think I thought this would be straight forward!!!! 

What I now find on the BISA Samuel MILLER is married to Ann Maria THOMAS, and on the BD&M Ann Maria CLIFT! Death dates annd place od death are the same. A little variety in children's names, but, Susanna's birth would fit neatly between Alice and Emma in 1862, Gus/George?/and Samuel between Elizabeth and James?

Two couples with so much in common living in the same area or are they one and the same family?  How to explain the different surnames for Ann Maria?

Mmmmmmm!!!!!

A perplexed Elsie

[krisesjoint]

Hi Elsie,

I do not think there are two families. I suspect an error has been made with her name in the BISA. She is CLIFT in everything else.

Cheers Kris