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Re: COMPLETED - 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 11:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Justin,

I got a reply back from the Dutch Jewish Genealogical Database. The chap has told me that Lemon/Lehman is most likely the Anglicized version. He says without knowing the Dutch spelling he cannot search.
Any ideas?

Penn  ???
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Re: COMPLETED - 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 23 April 09 07:29 BST (UK) »
Hello Penn,

I was wondering how you were getting on.

What a ridiculous answer they gave you! How on earth are you meant to know that?

Exactly what did you ask them?

Justin

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Re: COMPLETED - 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 16:17 BST (UK) »
Hello JustinL! Lemon Lemon was my Grandmother's Grandfather.
(Lemon Lemon - Solomon Lemon - Mary Frances Lemon - Michael Stauff - Me: Richard Stauff)
Check my RootsWeb (stauffr) and/or Ancestry.com (Orchard Supply) info.
(I just updated their shared GEDs)
Am interested in pooling our info on Lemon Lemon!
Trying to find his lineage & source of wife's named Mary Cohen... and other wives? Sister?
Is Lemon Lemon a relation of yours, as well?
Thank you!
Stauff, Staffa, Lemon, Fonseca, Busnach, Willms, McCroskey, Knapp, Goodwin, Moore, Morin, Metcalfe, Traylor, Clay, Chinn

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Re: COMPLETED - 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 17:10 BST (UK) »
Hello, penninah!

Checking out your Ancestry.com link you sent... Thank you!
Are our Lemons from the same basket?
Have you found if Lemon Lemon and leah were siblings?
Hope so! Thanks!

Stauff, Staffa, Lemon, Fonseca, Busnach, Willms, McCroskey, Knapp, Goodwin, Moore, Morin, Metcalfe, Traylor, Clay, Chinn


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Re: COMPLETED - 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 17:15 BST (UK) »
I'm not 100% but if they aren't siblings they must be cousins, as it says in this link, Lemon Lemon is on the 1901 census with Kate Alexander (nee Lemon) also Leah and Lemon share similar kids names!
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Re: COMPLETED - 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 17:21 BST (UK) »
penninah!

Just viewed the 1901 census...

Yes! My Lemon Lemon is also mentioned as a "General Dealer" in other census'...

The birth year of 1826 matches, too...

I think we've got him!

Stauff, Staffa, Lemon, Fonseca, Busnach, Willms, McCroskey, Knapp, Goodwin, Moore, Morin, Metcalfe, Traylor, Clay, Chinn

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Re: COMPLETED - 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 17:31 BST (UK) »
Good stuff! Looks like it.

I am trying to get some help in Holland tracing them but as yet have not had a great deal of luck! JustinL has been more than helpful!! I just wish I could get a lead on them in Haarlem!

I had seen that Lemon joined his son in the U.S!

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Re: COMPLETED - 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 17:41 BST (UK) »
Yes... Lemon Lemon is probably laid to rest in a Jewish cemetery near Cambridge MA...

His Grand-daughter, my Grandmother, is laid to rest at Evergreen Cemetary Brighton, MA...
Stauff, Staffa, Lemon, Fonseca, Busnach, Willms, McCroskey, Knapp, Goodwin, Moore, Morin, Metcalfe, Traylor, Clay, Chinn

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Re: COMPLETED - 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 20:03 BST (UK) »
Hello Richard,

I tipped off Penn earlier that had replied to the thread.

I am not in anyway related to Penn, I've just been helping her with her research.

We strongly suspect that your Lemon Lemon is the brother of her Leah Lemon. There are a couple of things to support this theory.

1. He was living with Leah's sister, Kate Alexander, in 1901.
2. Both Lemon and Leah gave the name Solomon to sons born in about 1870.

We are looking for proof that Lemon Lemon is the son of Ephrain Zalman Lemon who died in Mile End (London) in 1870.

Do you have the marriage certificate for Lemon Lemon and Mary Cohen from 1851?

I looked through some of the 19th century Jewish records (New Synagogue) and found a couple of things which will interest you.

Mary Cohen was born on 10 July 1831 in Petticoat Lane, Spitalfields. Her Hebrew name was Merle.

She was the daughter of Moses Cohen, a general dealer born in London in 1809. Moses (in Hebrew: Moshe ben Shlomeh ha-Cohn) married Hannah ? (Hebrew name: Hana bat Issachar Ber) on 25 August 1830. She was born in 1807. The marriage records appear to be only in Hebrew so I can't give you her English surname - yet.

I think it is likely that Moses was the son of Shlomeh ben Naftali Hirts ha-Cohn who had married Gittela bat Mordechai in 1803 (New Synagogue marriage register).

Mary was with her parents in the 1851 census at 2 Broadway, Goulston St. Spitalfields. (HO 107/1545 259).

I currently believe that the name Lemon is an anglicisation of the Yiddish name Leyme or Leyman which is generally regarded as an alias/nickname for Hebrew name Yehuda.

If you didn't know ben = son of, and bat = daughter of.

Justin