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Re: 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #18 on: Monday 23 March 09 11:53 GMT (UK) »
1891 is at RG12/ 332 f7 p3:

23 Pennyfields Poplar

Lemon Lemon m 64  dealer shop Holland
Agnes Leterage s 28  servant  ?? 
Anna Lemon 26  s daur  Younger Street East (?)
Johon Lemon 2 months grandson  Poplar
Elizabeth Agne 52  boarder nurse sick Poplar
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Re: 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #19 on: Monday 23 March 09 12:27 GMT (UK) »
LKL - I did see it. My apologies for not thanking you earlier. I was a bit distracted over the weekend.

Shaun - Thank for that. Am I correct in reading that he was supposedly married? Are there many women called Hannah Lemon in the near vicinity?

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Re: 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #20 on: Monday 23 March 09 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Re 1891 - Yes it says "m" Justin. I'll have a look for Hannah.
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Re: 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #21 on: Monday 23 March 09 13:06 GMT (UK) »
Have you got the details of his travel to the US on the Cretic in 1904?  (to join son Lewis Lemon in Cambridge Mass) ?
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Re: 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #22 on: Monday 23 March 09 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Shaun,

No, I don't. I would gratefuly welcome any further details you can dig up.

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Re: 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #23 on: Monday 23 March 09 13:25 GMT (UK) »
A bit of a coincidence here.  Lewis ( Louis?) Lemon's address in Cambridge Massachusetts in 1904 was  526 Massachusetts Avenue. I have been in that vicinity  between Christmas and New Year in each of the last 2 years, and would have walked past that property several times. I've watched soccer at the Phoenix Landing pub which is just a few doors away.

Anyway  - here are the details from the manifest

SS Cretic sailed from Liverpool Feb18 1904 bound for Boston.

Lemon Lemon age 78 Married ( "Widower" has been crossed out and "jeweller" written over it), can read and write, Dutch nationality, last resident in London, passage paid by son Lewis Lemon ( whose address I've already given above).
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Re: 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #24 on: Monday 23 March 09 14:21 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the 1910 US census for Cambridge, Lewis Lemon (58) is an antiques merchant who entered the US in 1872. He had been married to Elizabeth (54, b. Massachusetts) for 32 years and they had 3 children, all still living. One (Maria, age 27) is with them. Lemon Lemon is also there, now aged 86. He is shown as being English, of English parents.
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Re: 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Ok Justin,

Given what you emailed me about the children's names of possible siblings Leah and Lemon-
Leah's-
Solomon b1860
Rebecca b1865
Samuel b1870

Lemon's-
Solomon b1859
Rebecca b1861
Samuel b1870

I found this:-
Samuel Lemon died Whitechapel 1845
Rebecca Lemon died Whitechapel 1852
Solomon Lemon died Whitechapel 1854

Looking at that 41 census other than the age of Catherine and one of the not knows I would have thought that was them.

There IS a sister we know of called Catherine/Kate who married the Seelig Alexander. It all seems so close. One of the not knows could have been this Solomon.
Apart from Ephraim being married to the Mary from Frome before Rebecca died in 1852.
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Re: 1851 census pls - Lemon Lemon
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello Penn,

But - and a big but - the details ShaunJ posted stated that all members of that Lemon family were born in Middlesex!

However, maybe they were cousins of some degree that had moved to England at an earlier period. I am not sure that your Lemons were in England by 1841.

Thosedeaths you found must be worth pursuing, but how.

Ephraim Lemon was quite possibly the son of a Lemon (ha, ha) or more likely Lehman. We can assume that any brothers also adopted the surname Lemon. After their father had died, it would have been normal for Ephraim and any siblings to have named a son after the deceased father. This leads to the potential of many first cousins called Lemon Lemon. This sort of thing happened in family quite frequently.

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