Sawyer of Oxfordshire

[Sani]

 Hi All      I am looking for a William SAWYER possibly William Henry SAWYER  born  1818 in Bayworth or at least in Oxfordshire. His father is listed as William SAWYER ( EYRES )
and mother as Jane.  He marr Martha HONEY  1839  St Mary Magdalen, Oxforshire.  Its not much to go on, but could anyone help Please       Val

[spannie]

Hi Val,I havent found alot but this is what i have...William Henry Sawyer 1818-aug 1878,married (1839)Martha Hincy (Honey) 18 March 1818-24 Oct 1882  they had a son James Sawyer 1847-1905.i hope this helps??

[Sani]

Hi Spannie   Thank you for your interest.  I know William and Martha were both born in 1818 in Berkshire or Oxfordshire.   Martha was born in Bayworth and William is supposed to have been born in Oxforshire. My gr grandmother was Sarah , their  dau and sister of James, so I have all the family that came to Aust.  I have Martha's family back to 1650 but nothing on William. There is some problem with his parents as his farther is listed as Willian Sawyer (Eyres) and his mother is down as Jane. I have been given a marrage for William Ayres and Hannah Sawyer for 1 Dec 1817 St Brides Fleet st, London, but altough the time frame fits, it doesn't sound right, and I don't know what to do next.    Val

[colinsorigins]

Hi Val

I can give you no good news on William Sawyer.   I have seen a lot of correspondence from paid researchers who were unsuccessful.

One of the few known facts is his marriage - I have a copy of the certificate.   It is also known he sailed to Aus. in Feb 1844 on the Wallace and at this time he and Martha were both 26.

Much of the other information in circulation could be misleading because it seems to have been generated by a church member and no information on sources is given.   It is unlikely that he was from Bayworth, because if he were, information on his parents would have been readily available - somewhere in the City of Oxford seems the most likely.   His mother could have been Jane if she were living with him at the 1841 census - you could check this.

I presume you have Martha's family back to the marriage of William and Elizabeth Clemences in 1650.   William was baptized 24 Dec 1626 and his parents were Edward Hony and Barbara ?.

I hope some of this is useful

Best wishes

Colin[Honey]

[trish1120]

Excuse me for this probably stupid question but where does the Sawyer/Eyres bit come in. Does it mean he was Christened Ayres/Eyres and then took his Fathers name? Or the Family took the Mothers surname?


There is this marriage as well with a Eyres connection in London;

William AYRES
Jane DOLLEY
16 August 1818, Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London

If William and Martha married 1839 and left for Australia 1844 they should appear together on 1841 Census. Have you found them?
What children were born before they emigration to Australia? And where were they born. Do you have any birth certs of theirs?

Trish

[Sani]

I am gratefull for any info on William Henry Sawyer as he seems to be a mystery. I have his marriage cert that states his father was William Eyre and he married Martha Hincy Honey on 17th Nov 1839 at St Mary Madgalen, Oxfordshire. I haven't been able to get into 1841 census, so I can't verify that they lived in  Oxfordshire before comming to Aust.  But I do know that their son William died on board the "Wallace"  Dec 1843 and that a child had died before him. (name unknown ) Yes I can go back to Edward Honey.

On William's birth cert it states that William Henry Sawyer born 1818 in Bayworth, Berks, to William Eryes and Jane and so creates the mystery.


Thanks again       Val

[colinsorigins]

Hi Val

I have made several attempts to trace William Sawyer so I am interested in your comments, but some of them confuse me.  [They also appear on a CD of LDS church member submissions]

Bayworth is a cluster of houses down the road from Sunningwell.   The local church is St.  Leonards Sunningwell.   I have the Sunningwell parish register on microfiche, there is a baptism for Martha Honey but there is no entry for William Sawyer(or Eyre) in 1817, 1818 or 1819.   Birth certificates did not come into use until 1837.

I have looked again at William and Martha's marriage certificate.   The name Honey is very clearly written as Honey and could not be confused for Hincy, and the name Hincy does not appear anywhere on the certificate.

I hope these comments prove useful

Colin

[trish1120]

Sorry again if Im being dense, but you say you have Williams birth cert

Which William? The one born 1818 would not have a birth cert . That is why you are looking for his baptism. Do you mean William who went to Australias Death Cert?

What is Williams fathers occp on Marriage Cert.?

On freereg William and Marthas marriage reg is under SAWER, I have checked 1841 Census for them under Sawer/Eyres/Sawyer and cant find any match.

Trish

[colinsorigins]

Hi Trish

On marriage cert for William(b 1818) he is a blacksmith and his father, William Eyre, is deceased.
 
According to a LDS member's submission, William lived in 6 Church St., Sandford, Oxon on 6th June 1841 and was a labourer, and in 1844 was a blacksmith.

The mother of children for William and Martha would have to be Martha.   The Sawyer baptisms in Freebmd for Abingdon are promising as Sandford is in this registration district, as is Bayworth.

Cheers

Colin