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Offline Jane MB

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1871 1901 census Derby (st Alkmund area)
« on: Wednesday 16 February 05 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Looking for Mary Jane Savage b 1858 Hemyock Devon possibly married to Thomas Savage (?).
 Before marraige she was  Mary Jane Manley.
On 1881 census she has been widowed and has 2 daughters, Louisa Savage b 1879 and Mary Ann Savage b 1877.
Living in erasmus st, st alkmund, Derby.
She could be in the Derby area under either name.

Also did she remarry by the 1901 census. (did she marry one of her 1881 lodgers - George Fox or Fred Wright??)

Also was her sister Sarah Ann Manley (b 1858, Hemyock Devon) living in Derby during these years.

Any help would be grateful.
thanks
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Re: 1871 1901 census Derby (st Alkmund area)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 February 05 20:11 GMT (UK) »
hi
this should be of some help
on Tuesdays the Derby evening telegraph do a bygones of old derby and people who lived there work there ctc.
you can email them at.  bygones@derbytelegraph.co.uk

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Re: 1871 1901 census Derby (st Alkmund area)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 February 05 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi

1871 census of Taunton, Devon RG10/2370/42/14

Robert Hawkins 55         Innkeeper
Sarah Ann Hawkins 28
Amy Hawkins 3
Robert E Hawkins 3 months

Mary Jane Manley 15 born Hemyock - House Servant

Hope this helps

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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: 1871 1901 census Derby (st Alkmund area)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 February 05 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sunflower
So she was in Devon area with the rest of her family, not very far from home in Hemyock.

Do you know if her sister Sarah Ann Manley b1858? Hemyock was also in the Devon area, perhaps also in service?

Thanks again
Jane
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Re: 1871 1901 census Derby (st Alkmund area)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 February 05 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi

1871 census of West Buckland Somerset
RG10/2362/37/16

William Blackmore 31 Coach Builder and Grocer
Sarah Blackmore 32
Joseph Blackmore 4
Mary Ann Blackmore  1 month

Sarah J Manley aged 12 born Hemyock - General Servant

also

Found on FreeBMD
Mary Jane Manley
Thomas Savage      Sept quarter 1876 at Derby
Ref 7b 677

Sunflower
Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: 1871 1901 census Derby (st Alkmund area)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 February 05 23:05 GMT (UK) »
 Sunflower,

many thanks
Jane
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Re: 1871 1901 census Derby (st Alkmund area)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 February 05 14:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jane

It looks like Mary had re-married by 1891

RG12/2728/66/16-17
1891 census
2 Hill Street, St Peter's Derby

Samuel Riggett  Head 39 Gas Labourer bn Derby
Mary J Riggett wife 34 bn Hemyock Devon
Mary A Savage Step dau. 14 bn Chaddeston
Louisa Savage Step dau. 12 bn Derby
Thomas Savage Step son. 9 bn Derby
Benjamin Riggett son 4 bn Derby
Eva Riggett dau. 3 bn Derby
John S Riggett son 3 months bn Derby

Sunflower
Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: 1871 1901 census Derby (st Alkmund area)
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 February 05 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the remarriage info about Mary.
It seems the birth of Thomas Savage must have been a close shave!! To be legit , she must have been carrying him during the census, with her previous husband having only just died!?!
(Assuming that the dates are recorded accurately.)

Do you happen to know if Sarah Jane (or Ann) Manley was also in Derby? And had she married and moved to Derby or stayed in Devon. (in 1871she is a servant in West Buckland).
born 1858 Hemyock daughter of John and Mary Manley

Thanks for all your help
Jane
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Re: 1871 1901 census Derby (st Alkmund area)
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 February 05 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jane

This looks like your Sarah

Sarah Ann Manley married Charles Henry Brown
Derby Dec quarter 1877.

1891 census RG12/2738/61/18
St. Alkmunds Derby

Charles Brown 37 Head Fitter Labourer bn Wedsbury Staff
Sarah A Brown 32  wife bn Hemyock Devon
Sarah A Brown 13 dau. bn Derby
Alice Brown 10 dau.  bn Derby
Alfred Brown 7 dau. bn Derby
Thomas Brown 5 son bn Derby
Mary A Brown 3 dau.bn Derby
Thomas Hy Brown 1 son bn Derby


(it's strange that there are two Thomas's)

Sunflower
Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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