BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham

[Yi Win]

Hi,

Please email a copy - between yours and Grace's I should be able to present something to someone to make up - IF I can find that someone who isnt just concerned about taking an already made crest from their records and reproducing it and makes them up to order!

and if anyone out here knows of a company who makes crest up as per drawings/pictures I'd be very grateful.

this is the one most places want to reproduce for you ...

http://www.houseofnames.com/bloomfield-coat-of-arms

which isnt ours - when you get into specifics of 'can you.....' they cant as they do not already have it on thier machines!

ce la vie.

I detract from the subject of tracing the line here - sorry!

Yi

[Brooker62]

Hi Yi,

I just heard that the shield was made by the flollowing company, between 30 and 40 years ago:

8 Fleet st 2 Co. Dublin
D2 Dublin 2 (Dublin city)
Tel: +353 (01) 6777034

I'll email a copy to you and Grace for the use of...

All the best, Trevor

[Suffolk Mawther]

Greetings Bloomfielders!

As some of you are aware we took the big leap of moving from the west of the county back home to Fram a couple of months back - which means of course that I now live exceedingly close to Easton. 

If you would like to PM details of what you need done in Easton I will see if I can do it for you. 

Of course the way things are at the moment I may have to canoe there 

Pat ...

[Yi Win]

Hi,

As we were talking about Heraldry & Coats of Arms. I found this....

Henry is the son of Thomas who is the son of Gilbert in Stonham

He appears to have a completly different Coat of Arms to the Newton Flotman and the Stonham Branches

The Rectory Fersfield:-
HISTORY OF NORFOLK, Francis Bloomfield
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/History_of_Norfolk/Volume_1/Diss

Another black marble is thus inscribed:

Here Lie Buried In This Grave John Blomefield, Gent.

Sometime Of Corpus Christi Coll: In Camer:

All these following inscriptions on stones, between the north and south door; the three first in the nave, and the three last in the south isle:

Alice, Daughter Of Henry Blomefield, Gent. & Alice His Wife, Died Nov. 23, 1712.

Here Lieth The Boddy Of Mr. John Blomefield, The Son Of Mr. John Blomefield, Eliz. His Wife, Who Deceased Satarday June I, 1695.

Blomefield's arms and crest.

Repositæ sunt sub hoc Lapide in spe beatæ Resurrectionis, Reliquiæ Elizabethæ filiæ natu maximæ, Johannis Blomefield, hujus Paroch: de Fersfield Genr: et Eliz: ux: ejus (ambo juxta hunc locum

Alice wife of Henry Blomefield, Gent. Died 17 March. 1729 Aged 52 Years.

Henry Blomefield Gent. died June the 1st 1732, Aged 52 Years.

Against the south wall, to which the grave of the said Henry joins, is a mural monument of white marble, having the crest, arms, and quarterings of Blomefield, viz.

Blomefield, sab. on a chevron or, three broom branches vert, budded gul.; on a canton of the second, a spear sab. embrued, broken in the truncheon.

Crest, a demi-tiger az. the mane and tail arg. holding in his paws a sword proper, broken in the blade. Motto—pro aris et focis.

[Yi Win]

The above mentioned Coat of Arms seems significantly more complicated that the other 2 we have (on view next to Lady Grace and Brooker).

This site...

http://www.fleurdelis.com/meanings.htm

is useful for translating the description to pictorial

Yi

[Yi Win]

Hi,

We also have this...

1st entry in Little Stonham is in the deeds of 1489 spelt Blomvyle

ARMS:-
Arms of BLOMFIELD : Quarterly, Per fesse indented Argent and Azure,
a bend Gules.

Coat of Arms:-
Blomevile or Blundevile- Said to bear : Quarterly per fess
indented or and az , a bend gu

Blomeville. See Blumville,
Blondeviile, of Newton Flotman, Quarterly per fess indented
or and az,, a bendlet gu.

Blumville, Bishop Thomas de, died 1236. Said to bear: Quarterly,
per fess indented or and az., a bend arg. [?].

(note he has colour silver (argent) and the others have gule (red)


Same coat as Blondeviile.
Blundeville, Robert de. Quarterly, per fess indented or and az.,
over all a bendlet gu.

[Yi Win]

and .....

(I think this may be compliments of Lady Grace's research)

LC Siers

Tanners Manuscripts contain six pedigrees of the family, all bear­ing the same Arms, which were: Quarterly, per fess, indented Agrent and Azure, a Bend, Gules.

Crest:   A lozenge,   gules,   between two wings erect,  sometimes without the lozenge.

It is interesting to note that these Arms and Crest are derived from the Barony of Rye, Normandy, and that such Barony owned the Manor of Newton Flotman, from which a fair presumption may be formed of the connection and origin of the original settlers in Norfolk with Blomville.

The heads of the existing Blomfields seem to  have settled at' Stonham Parva and Stonham Aspall, Suffolk.   

At any rate, they are specifically referred to in the six pedigrees above mentioned, recorded in the Heralds Visitations of 1664.

[Yi Win]

well what d'ya'guess...

here is a description of the Blonville-sur-mer Coat of Arms

Coat of arms of Blonville-sur-mer (Calvados)
Blazon: Azure on a bend gules between in chief a seven pointed star argent and in base three bezants, a lion passant gardant bendwise or.

follow this link....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:COA_fr_Blonville-sur-mer.svg

does it JUST happen to look familiar to ?

Blomvyle Stonham - Quarterly, per fess, indented Agrent and Azure, a Bend, Gules.


When you QUARTER a coat of arms - it usually means the other coloured quarters are from the FEMALE side and a part of HER Coat of Arms.

This would explain the 'or' of the Newton Flotman (from a female marriage and her families Arms colours) and the 'argent' of the Stonham denoting their female marriage's Coat of Arms colours

(see William Prince of Wales has added the Spencer 'red' on HIS Coat of Arms in memory of his mother Diana)

So this explains the quartering and the 2 variations of the Coats of Arms between branches.

If you NOW take out the female quarters you are left with the basic Blonville-sur-mer coat of Arms!

 

Yi

[Brooker62]

Well I'll be... This is extremely interesting and I think you've got something there. The colours on the crest seem reminiscent of those in my mother's tree but as you say, there will be elements from each side of a marriage, tying them together. You could study this for 20 years more and still be learning at the end of that time!