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Re: BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham
« Reply #216 on: Friday 18 March 11 08:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

This is the info from Peter Myler.....

According to my tree Henry BLOMEFIELD and Grace STANNARD of Mickfield had 7
children:



Katherine (b 1565)
Elizabeth (b 1566)

Joan (b 1569)

Rachel (b 1571)

John (b 1574 d 1629)

Stephen (b 1576 d 1579)

Henry (b 1578)


I have Thomas BLOMEFIELD (b 1580 d 1649) marrying Mary BAKER on 04 Feb 1602
in Mickfield (from the Parish records).  His parents were Thomas BLOMEFIELD
(c1547-1623) and Margaret ????.


muddy's the water's somewhat!

But to be honest I cant find any doc evidence of Thomas being Henry's son from the Parish records.

but their daughter is called Grace - the names (as you say) match the family)

I have gone back to Peter and asked if he has anything on where Thomas's parents fit in.
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Re: BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham
« Reply #217 on: Friday 18 March 11 08:46 GMT (UK) »
PS

For note the IGI records on line have several extra kids down as belonging to Henry & Grace

IGI
Elizabeth Blomfield 
   Birth:     About 1573      Mickfield, Suffolk, England
         
Parents:
     Father:     Henry Blomfield    
     Mother:     Grace Stannard

IGI
Thomas Blomfield 
   Birth: 1576      Mickfield, Suffolk, England
         
Parents:
     Father:     Henry Blomfield
     Mother:     Grace Stannard

Marriages:
     Spouse:     MARY BACON    
     Marriage:     04 FEB 1602      Mickfield, Suffolk, England

and a guy called Neil Alexander has an Ann as part of this family

LC Sier seems to have a George

LC Sier
The first Henry Blomfield had two sons, Henry ("B") and George, the first of whom married twice, first to Ann Aldus, of Axingfield and, secondly, to Margaret Legat. His second son, George, returned to Little Stonham.
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Re: BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham
« Reply #218 on: Friday 18 March 11 09:11 GMT (UK) »
Parish entry.....

Mickfield   1602   2   14   
Marriage   Blomefyld   Thomas   

Mary Baker/Bacon   

children

Mickfield   1608   
Baptism   Blomefylde   Mary   
Thomas   Mary   

Mickfield   1611   
Baptism   Blomefyld   Jane   
Thomas   Mary      

Mickfield   1619      
Baptism   Blomfeild   Robert   
Thomas   Mary      

Mickfield   1620      
Burial   Blomfeild   Robert   
Thomas   Mary      

Mickfield   1624   
Baptism   Blomfeild   Ezechiell   
Thomas   Mary      

all the other kids appear in IGI ONLY and not in the parish records.
The other kids do not appear in the parish records as children of another set of parents - they just arent there.

I am double checking with Peter for you.

Yi



      


(please remember I am not looking at the original but a transcribed version)
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Re: BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham
« Reply #219 on: Friday 18 March 11 09:39 GMT (UK) »
ok so this is what we appear to have

parish records

Thomas Blomfyld m Mary Baker (Bacon?)

parents
Thomas Blomfyld b 1547 Mickfield m Margaret

parents
John Blomfield b 1511 Bury St Ed d Mickfield m Elizabeth

parents
John Blomvyle b 1488 died Bury St Ed m Anne

parents
Gilbert Blomvyle and Elizabeth English

HOWEVER this Thomas and Mary have the children mentioned in the Parish Records (listed in thread above) and NOT those mentioned in the IGI records.

Where the IGI records came from who allocated the Thomas there with Henry and Grace and who those kids are I do not know - they are not in the paris h records I have access too.

I have asked Peter to check his parish records to see if he can a) find them in the Mickfield ones b) find them elsewhere.

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Re: BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham
« Reply #220 on: Friday 18 March 11 15:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

not good news

Generally Peter has found IGI records to be unreliable and conflicting and prefers to use them as clues to go back and find the Parish records and says the LDS has significant incentive to “make up” family lines.

So we cant find this family!

Doesnt mean to say it doesnt exist - it so obviously does but perhaps not where we think they do?

Sorry! Run out of clues here!




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Re: BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham
« Reply #221 on: Friday 18 March 11 19:36 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so very much for all your trouble and time Yi & co, I will relay this info back to cousin  in Uk, aha  8) hmmmmmmm interesting indeed
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Re: BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham
« Reply #222 on: Friday 18 March 11 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Back again, well well thats interesting, just been rechecking on the Blomfield Family chart and our Thomas Blomvyle 1547-1623 is actually down here as Henry' s(1535)  brother, so going by your data, its a brother and not a son it would seem, phew, now thats very very interesting, thanks again, will have to adjust the charts a little now..thats again guys thats great!!! 8) :) we have the line down from Thomas and Mary, Bacon  just had him as a son whereas by your  correct data he was Henrys brother..great stuff!!!!! will keep checking on....and on...and on  ;)
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Re: BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham
« Reply #223 on: Saturday 19 March 11 00:33 GMT (UK) »
Parish entry.....

'Mickfield   1602   2   14   Marriage   Blomefyld   Thomas   
Mary Baker/Bacon   

children

Mickfield  1608  
Baptism   Blomefylde   Mary  '

This dating seems rather odd and I would make a guess not entirely all there?... that there would be a gap of 6years from the marriage  1602, to the birth of their first child,1608 ? so I am assuming there must be other children born before  than 1608???? lol this is a proper mixup ????????? I've sent this data off to a couple of the Blomfield cousins UK to see if they can get their heads together and work this lot out!! ::)


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Re: BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham
« Reply #224 on: Monday 21 March 11 00:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Yi re Thomas & Mary Blomfield, we have all had a look  at data provided and a  state of confusion reigns ??? , dates/names just don't correlate so until such time as we can come up the goodies like birth records, wills etc., to prove conclusively who is who and how and when and why ::), we have decided to  leave our Family tree as it is on this particular member.....for the present time.......:>)
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