BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham

[Yi Win]

Hi Pat,

I didnt know you were suffolkmawther - you'll know me as Amanda who contacted you re Four Elms, Mowness & Clockhouse (Blomvlle houses) - you put me in touch with them - small world!!!

Hi Grace and all,

Gayla has the Will -its hard to read -she's going for a translation quote as the English is quite difficult - will keep you up to date.

Yi 

[Suffolk Mawther]

I did wonder at the time if you had put two and two together 

I have enjoyed following all this information - although I have only one tenuous link via Bridges to Blomfield.

Pat ...

[Yi Win]

You are that local historian I contacted - oh dear the cats out the bag now - they'll all be after you for info! 

[Lady Grace]

Hi Yi and  all can anyone help me with this? it was sent to me by a Blomfield family member UK, I thought this was all sorted out? as a lot of our Family tree pivots on this, I do not hold all the data to check it out here in NZ
 message as below...

('The two big problems are as follows
1.  Henry Blomfield  married  to Grace Stannard.---- I have found their Marriage details;
 
HENRY BLOMEFYLD & GRACE STANNARD  ON 23RD SEPTEMBER  1564 @ WITHERSDALE.--Now upon the tree you sent to me one of the siblings is THOMAS BLOOMFIELD? We have no proof that  he had a son with this name.
 
2.We have a THOMAS BLOMEFYLD & MARY BACON ON 04 FEBUARY 1602 @ WITHERSDALE.--We have been unable to prove the names of his Mother AND Father so far.')
 
? any confirmation I can send this guy  please..ta muchly

[Yi Win]

Hello Lady Grace,

Cripes - not my branch but I think I have some info on this branch and it should say where or who the info is from.

Will go have a look see and get back to you but as not my line down the info I have could be very sketchy! (and not from any research by me)

Yi

[youngtug]

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,438529.0.html

[Yi Win]

Hi Lady Grace,

This is what I have and where it comes from....

IGI
Henry Blomfield
   Birth:  15 JUN 1535      Mickfield,East, , Suffolk, England
         
Parents:
     Father:     John Blomfield    
     Mother:     Elizabeth Blomfield    

P Myler puts this Henry as son of John of Bury St Edmunds

LC Sier puts this Henry as a son of a Stonham Blomfield decendent.

LC Sier
The pedigree of the family now under review commences with Henry Blomfield (A), of Mickfield, who was living in the fifteenth century. He, in all probability, was a son of one of the Blomfields of Stonham. Mickfield is only two miles North of Little Stonham. The Tanner Manuscripts state "he purchased lands in Debenham called Stonham-field and built thereon" and it is suggested he did what is frequently done to-day, viz: named the field after his original place of residence, as it could not have been that the field was adjoining Stonham Parva or Stonham Aspall, Debenham being some miles distant from either of these Villages.

   
You Have
HENRY BLOMEFYLD & GRACE STANNARD  ON 23RD SEPTEMBER  1564 @ WITHERSDALE

I have on the tree...

IGI info fro Henry
Marriages:
     Spouse:     Grace Stannard
     Marriage:  23 SEP 1564 

note: no location - location is from P Myler - possibly assumed as all children born in Mickfield.

Am going to check the parish records I have to see if they include Mickfield.....

hang on........

Yes I have the parish record kindly provided by Peter Myler and they state

Church     Mickfield
Date           1564   9   23   
Event       Marriage   
Surname   Blomefyld   
First name Henry
Spouse   Grace Stannard   

Remember I only have a copy of what Peter has - he has the actual records.

I dont know where Withersdale comes from and have never heard of the name....

hang on again....

This is from the record of Henry's brother Anthony....

A Han:-
Anthony Blomfyld & Elizabeth Drofeman 03 Nov 1562
Book:    Marriages at Withersdale, 1660 to 1837. (Marriage)
Collection:    Suffolk: - Registers of Marriages (Various Parishes), 1539-1837

IGI -
Anthony Blomfield
   Birth: 04 SEP 1536      Of, Mickfield, Suffolk, England   
Parents:
     Father:     John Blomfield    
     Mother:     Elizabeth Blomfield

from P Myler...

Anthony:  b 1536 to John B and Elizabeth at Mickfield. 
Married  Elizabeth Croseman 1562 in Mickfield
and has son Phillip b 1563 in Mickfield

So I would assume Withersdale is perhaps a parish within Mickfield as the marriage is also registered as Mickfield.



Now upon the tree you sent to me one of the siblings is THOMAS BLOOMFIELD?


Yes Henry appears to have had a brother Thomas b c1547 married a Margaret and had 7 kids - for note on one of his kids marriage is states Withersdale (various parishes) which kind of suggest Withersdale is a parish not a place.


We have no proof that  he had a son with this name.

This is the info I have on Thomas the son and the sources the info came from...

A Han / P Myler / G Blomfield

IGI
Thomas Blomfield 
   Birth: 1576      Mickfield, Suffolk, England
         
Parents:
     Father:     Henry Blomfield
     Mother:     Grace Stannard

Marriages:
     Spouse:     MARY BACON    
     Marriage:     04 FEB 1602      Mickfield, Suffolk, England

Thomas Blomefyld & Mary Bacon 04 Feb 1602

However on checking the Parish records I cant find a record of a Thomas being entered but nor can I find a record of a son George yet LC Sier mentions him

LC Sier
The first Henry Blomfield had two sons, Henry ("B") and George, the first of whom married twice, first to Ann Aldus, of Axingfield and, secondly, to Margaret Legat. His second son, George, returned to Little Stonham.
Book:    Marriages at Withersdale, 1660 to 1837. (Marriage)
Collection:    Suffolk: - Registers of Marriages (Various Parishes), 1539-1837

The parish records have this Henry entered.

So Thomas being the son of Henry all rests on the International Geneaology records being transcribed correctly

one immedaite thing that springs to min is this entry from the parish records...

Mickfield   1576         
Baptism   Blomefyld   Stephen   
Henry   Grace      Mk   

same year as Thomas supposedly was born yet no parish entry?

conclusion - findings inconclusive!

IGI records can not be relied on as accurate - but then there are many errors in parish records too.

Having just looked up the IGI records it definitely states on marriage transcibed from the parish records the parents are Henry and Grace

The copy of the parish records I have do not state the parents but the original parish records may do so - I will ask Peter if he still has copies of them and what they say.

Clear as mud as usual.

Yi

[Yi Win]

cheers youngtug - posts clashed - only thickens the plot really!!

[Lady Grace]

thanks for your trouble all, the only way we could be 100% correct is to have a Thomas in Henry's will I guess or birth data, so we are at this moment 99.9% sure that the Thomas Blomfield in question is Henry and Graces son, but as in all genealogy there is an element of doubt until facts are proven 100%, all his childrens christian names fit in with his family names so that a bonus..it ever onwards......:>)